[p2pu-webcraft] Using OSQA for badges (and more information on the assessment and badge pilot)

Parag Shah adaptives at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 04:48:25 UTC 2011


Hi Erin,

Badge granularity will be an interesting problem to solve. I am sure the
right granularity will become clear as we move along.

I think I may have mentioned this in another email, but one more thing which
may be useful, will be a feature to rate the assessments.

-- 
Thanks & Regards
Parag Shah
http://blog.adaptivesoftware.biz
http://www.diycomputerscience.com

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Erin Knight <erin.knight21 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Parag -
>
> I think these are both definitely good ideas and things that we have talked
> about for future iterations. We knew we needed to start somewhere and so
> identified a core set of assessments/badges for the first round. But there
> is room for badges like the peer helper - in fact, the OSQA participation
> badges currently do reflect this type of behavior, but moving forward, we
> will probably highlight it specifically through SoW badges.
>
> In terms of #2 - not sure if this is totally an OSQA specific issue, or
> just the badge granularity and peer assessment model. We do have some badges
> that are fairly 'big' in this round - JS, for example, could be broken down
> into many levels or skills that then aggregate up to a JS proficient badge.
> This would reduce the peer assessment burden. We do plan to have more
> granular badges moving forward, although we are definitely looking for
> feedback on the right granularity (for example, I wouldn't expect that we
> would have badges for every <> tag in HTML). Another thing we will do moving
> forward is rely more on the narrative piece - learners will post work but
> also a narrative highlighting the key evidence that demonstrates their
> skill, thus streamlining the process a bit.
>
> For those on the list that aren't aware, we recently launched an
> assessment/badge pilot in School of Webcraft featuring an initial set of
> assessments and associated badges for learners. We are using a customized
> instance of OSQA for the pilot to handle the work submission, assessment
> (voting) and badge issuing: http://badges.p2pu.org (you can log in with
> your P2PU account info).
>
> *One thing to note - there are also a number of School of Social Innovation
> (SoSI) badges that are running this session too, so you will see a number of
> assessments and badges with "SoSI" in there as well.
>
> For more on the badge pilot, see:
> http://erinknight.com/post/3218758524/school-of-webcraft-badge-pilot
>
> http://erinknight.com/post/3472903834/its-aliiiiiiive-the-sow-badge-pilot-that-is
>
> For a little more background on WHY we are doing this:
> It's the future!! The future of P2PU and other similar open education
> efforts is to further legitimize the learning that is occurring by offering
> learners a way to capture the learning that is occuring and carry it with
> them to other contexts, such as formal institutions or the broader career
> ecosystem. We are exploring badges as a way to do this. Learners can earn
> badges across various learning experiences, and those badges can act as a
> personalized transcript to demonstrate learning and signal achievements.
> Ultimately, we hope that badges will provide an alternative certification
> system for learners. Webcraft is an ideal environment because of the
> alignment with Mozilla - badges and assessments are Mozilla-endorsed and
> Mozilla (and other similar companies/institutions) can recognize badges as
> relevant and legitimate evidence of job skills.
>
> Definitely check it out, give us feedback on this list.
>
> Thanks!
> Erin
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Parag,
>>
>> thanks, I think these are very useful ideas.
>>
>> I don't think we meant to confine badges to only OSQA, indeed in the new
>> platform, whose development is now really gathering steam, I am guessing
>> that we will try to build this in more directly. Part of the reason for OSQA
>> was to get started quickly, and gain some experience, without having to wait
>> for custom-built technology.
>>
>> Your idea of splitting up large competency-based badges in smaller chunks
>> for reviewers is also interesting.
>>
>> Stian
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 23:46, Parag Shah <adaptives at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have been thinking about badges and the environment which can support
>>> badges for learners.
>>>
>>> I guess OSQA is a natural choice because it suppports QA type forums and
>>> badges. However, I had a few thoughts which I feel might be important as we
>>> go ahead.
>>>
>>> 1. Context of community badges.
>>> Along with competency badges, we might also support other badges, such as
>>> 'peer helper', 'consistent learner', etc. Most likely these badges would be
>>> in the context of a course. So if someone gets a 'peer helper' badge in the
>>> Javascript course, it might be a good feature if we could reflect this,
>>> because that person may not have been a 'peer helper' in another course. It
>>> may also be a nice idea to reflect proof of the work along with a badge. It
>>> will be a bit cumbersome to have all this information in a coherent and
>>> clutter-less way, in OSQA.
>>>
>>> 2. Voting for challenge parts.
>>> Right now our notion of voting for a challenge submission, is to evaluate
>>> the entire work of a candidate. However, for slightly large challenges, it
>>> may be a deterant, for a reviewer to spend 3 hours reviewing a challenge.
>>> However, they would be happy to review certain parts of a challenge based on
>>> their expertise and time available. Not sure how well OSQA will support
>>> that.
>>>
>>> I don't mean to say that OSQA is a bad choice. Rather just trying to get
>>> a discussion going on where we might get into bottlenecks with OSQA, and if
>>> we should consider some alternatives or customize OSQA.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> Parag Shah
>>> http://blog.adaptivesoftware.biz
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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