[p2pu-webcraft] [p2pu-schools] Re: Please review: default decline message for non Webcraft courses and groups

Thu Jun 23 20:44:18 UTC 2011

we could incorporate it as a notification option but i think we should
create a more legit notification procedure first :). (right now it's
literally just a cron job which scrapes the html content of the study groups
listing page, and does a diff with the courses that existed the previous
day. https://gist.github.com/977559)

i didn't even know about the "new course announcement list"! what is going
to it now then, if there are no other notifications? :)

Jessy
--
http://jessykate.com

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Jessica Ledbetter <
jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:

> We could send it to the new course announce list then maybe?
>
> That way we're not updating the hardcoded admin email address.
>
> Or we could roll it into the platform and let users select "new courses
> created" announcement in the user profile area. Was going to move that
> direction with "email me with new people with these tags or new courses with
> these tags" type thing. Maybe.
>
> It could be after the stopgap of cc'ing hardcoded peeps.
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 for removal of school association in course creation (or making it
>> much more obvious, the whole schools thing really confused the
>> shuttleworth users)
>>
>> +1 for avoiding to deny users to do anything
>>
>> +1 for course creation notifications to go to pippa and anyone else
>> who wants them as well (maybe any user on the site can choose to
>> receive them?)
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>> On 22 June 2011 23:12, Alison Jean Cole <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > If school organizers would feel overwhelmed by this, I am happy to
>> direct
>> > all new courses to appropriate schools. I would much prefer to do this +
>> > remove the school option from the course creation page, than deny folks
>> who
>> > are prompted to pick a school, but not explained clearly its role. It
>> > creates unnecesary negative feedback.
>> >
>> > ALISON
>> > p2pu.org/en/alison/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>> > <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:54 PM, John Britton <
>> public at johndbritton.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I totally agree Ali, declining people is bad. They should be invited
>> in
>> >>> to Schools
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> +1
>> >> I think admin at p2pu is emailed when new courses are created. Can maybe
>> cc
>> >> school organizers (if they're not on the admin list already) for a
>> stopgap
>> >> till we get tags.
>> >> Also a group organizer can ping the school in question in case her/his
>> >> group is missed. Then it'd be handy to have a version of this email
>> >> probably.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>> >>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Agree with Jessy's feedback.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My hope is that denial will be a temporary process until we have a
>> good
>> >>>> tagging system in place.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Schools could then review courses tagged with their topics and invite
>> >>>> them to join the school. I would remove "select a school" from the
>> course
>> >>>> creation process and replace it with tags. That way we avoid having a
>> >>>> negative system in place altogether.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ALISON
>> >>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >>>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> i think it was for p2pu as a whole. i do like the idea that people
>> who
>> >>>>> have questions could contact an individual person directly with
>> their
>> >>>>> concerns or questions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jessy
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> http://jessykate.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Pippa Buchanan
>> >>>>> <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> great feedback from jessy - but I accidentally deferred the message
>> in
>> >>>>>> the moderation filter. sorry jessy!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> switching the order of the explanation makes sense - thanks for
>> >>>>>> pointing that out!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> re volunteer course mentors - i recall us discussing it, but it
>> didn't
>> >>>>>> go much further then that. Was this meant to be a general P2PU
>> approach or
>> >>>>>> SoW specific?  Once we've got tags in place we'll also be able to
>> point
>> >>>>>> organisers towards many other organsiers working on similar topics.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> P*
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>>> From: Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com>
>> >>>>>> To: "School of Webcraft (Sow)" <p2pu-webcraft at lists.p2pu.org>
>> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:43:49 -0400
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [p2pu-webcraft] Please review: default decline message
>> >>>>>> for non Webcraft courses and groups
>> >>>>>> cool :) here's a couple thoughts:
>> >>>>>> i would put the description about SoW and what differentiates it
>> from
>> >>>>>> p2pu *before* your decline statement, so that when you say, "it
>> doesn't fit"
>> >>>>>> you've already given the context for why.
>> >>>>>> also when you say "let the community know" i would have a link to
>> an
>> >>>>>> individual person, as well a link to the mailing list. otherwise
>> "community"
>> >>>>>> seems a bit vague. i imagine many people won';t want to join a
>> mailing list
>> >>>>>> just to worksop their topic and if that's the only option, we might
>> lose
>> >>>>>> them, so having a human is useful IMHO.
>> >>>>>> didn't we discuss the idea of having volunteer course
>> >>>>>> mentors/contacts?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Jessy
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> http://jessykate.com
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