[p2pu-dev] Notes from today's seminar call

Fri Nov 9 08:02:35 UTC 2012

Hello everybody

Just thought a bit about what we said during the call about the newsletter.
What if we also include a short little curated bit about how to get
involved and currently active courses in the welcome email that a user gets
when they sign up on the site?

Cheers
d

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Rebecca Kahn <bekka at p2pu.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Here are the notes from this week's call - many thanks to all those who
> joined us and to Vanessa for the brilliant research and mentorship
> discussion.
> All notes and transcripts can be found on the etherpad:
> http://pad.p2pu.org/p/community-20121108
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *8 November 2012 - P2PU Community Call*
> *Seminar Call*
>
> Attendees:
>
>    - Vanessa
>
>
>    - Bekka
>
>
>    - Chris
>
>
>    - Dirk
>
>
>    - Philipp
>
>
> *Quick 4P& an i  report back*
>
> *Progress (what we/p2pu worked on this week)*
>
>
>    - School of Data Curriculum--analysis and feedback on 12 modules [VMG]
>
>
>    - Badge Landscape Analysis [VMG]
>
>
>    - Feedback Taxonomy--What is the right feedback to prompt and when?
>    [VMG]
>
>
>    - School of Open Webinar on Course Creation [VMG]
>
>
>    - Community Call Seminar discussion [VMG]
>
>
>    - Preparing for School of Sound curriculum meeting friday with CE,
>    Brendan Baker, Paul Osman [VMG][CE]
>
>
>    - Planning for new courses on beta with Dirk [BK][DU] (
>    http://pad.p2pu.org/p/beta-course-trial)
>
>
>    - Direct people to the powerpoint deck for how to create a course in
>    "How to Create a Course"
>
>
>    -
>    https://p2pu.org/en/groups/make-a-course/content/bonus-task-playstorm/
>
>
>    - Make a screencast of of the new UX (like Ali's old one)
>
>
>    - Use School of Open  courses as a template
>
>
>    - Join Wedneday's webinar
>
>
>    - Lots of marketing/newsletters [BK]
>
>
>    - Some finance leftovers [BK]
>
>
>    - Planning trip to US for Google OER workshop at the start of
>    December!!! [DU] YAYAYAYAY!!!!
>
>
>    - Shuttleworth Foundation Gathering
>
>
>    - Mech MOOC
>
>
>    - Getting ready for next round of Python course
>
>
>    - Fundraising for Mooc next phase
>
>
> *Priorities (next week's focus)*
>
>
>    - Feedback Taxonomy [VMG]
>
>
>    - School of Open Webinar on Course Creation [VMG]
>
>
>    - Fiction Course with Sam Allingham creation [VMG}
>
>
>    - Contacting new organisers [BK][DU]
>
>
>    - Planning courses and managing communcation for beta testers [BK]
>
>
> *Problems (Walls I ran into on the way)*
>
>
>    - East. Coast. (London. England) Weather. Sheesh.
>
>
> *Process (org stuff)*
>
>
>    - Community Updates
>
>
>    - Goal: Keep everyone updated on things that are going on in the
>    community
>
>
>    - Suggestion [VMG]: can we use the results from the analytics and then
>    curate them into something like "choice comments from P2Pu courses this
>    week" or the like
>
>
>    - PS: I'd rather we have fewer things, but with more detail about what
>    is actually going on. (see notes in the transcript)
>
>
>    - VMG will ask to see the soundclod memo so we can see what they do
>
>
>    - Red Cross Community Management and course feedback--it's totally
>    awesome the way they keep the larger community in the loop Ditto. A
>    lot of it is automated, but it's still a brilliant model [BK]
>
>
>    - SoundCloud & Twilio both send weekly summations of what happened in
>    the community this week to the whole organization--highlights, points of
>    tension, problems
>
>
> *Ideas (stuff that people should know about but isn't yet a priority)*
>
>
>    - Philipp is offline next week
>
>
> *Agenda*
>
> *Mentorship dicsussion:*
> Preparatory video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqQtsRPzXXI
>
> I. Introductory Questions:
>
>    - When have you been a mentor?
>
>
>    - Tutoring immigrant schoolchildren
>
>
>    - Helping township youth into a career in food
>
>
>    - Currently mentoring someone learning to code
>
>
>    - I've been a teacher, which i suspect is very similar
>
>
>    - in past work situations
>
>
>    - Nephew
>
>
>    - Some past jobs with programming instruction
>
>
>    - music instruction to friends
>
>
>    - What are mentors getting out of it?
>
>
>    - Grooming the next generation (esp. in academia)
>
>
>    - Paying it forward
>
>
>    - Mentors choose to give up their time, so there needs to be an
>    initial opt-in and rapport, which can't be manufactured
>
>
>    - If it goes well, there is a real sense of shared success
>
>
>    - Coffee from Bekka
>
>
>    - Generally, you get to work with people who *want* to learn (in most
>    mentorship relationship you choose to be a mentor)
>
>
>    - When have you been a mentee?
>
>
>    - All my tertiary educational career
>
>
>    - All the time
>
>
>    - Throughout the P2PU experience, esp. starting up
>
>
>    - I'm pretty good at it now, but feel I could have done more to find
>    and work with mentors earlier in my life
>
>
>    - Not formally (me neither, what does formally mean?
>
>
>    - understanding that it's a mentor relationship and actively making
>    time for it
>
>
>    - is learning from someone being a mentee?
>
>
>    - wait, currently, Paul Osman is mentoring me :) (Isn't he mentoring
>    us all!)
>
>
> II. Mentorship
>
>    - Good Work
>
>
>    - Ethical
>
>
>    - Engaging
>
>
>    - Excellent
>
>
>    - When "good work" is accomplished all of these dimensions are aligned
>
>
>    - For example: nursing (aims of the nurse and the patients are aligned
>    -> get better)
>
>
>    - Anti-example: US congress at the moment, goals not aligned
>
>
>    - How are the norms and practices of a community of practice (=fields)
>    passed on to new joiners?
>
>
>    - Studied three generations of workers in a number of fields
>
>
>    - Found that mentors played an important role in helping them into the
>    community/field
>
>
>    - Set ethical standards
>
>
>    - Engage and create interests/passion
>
>
>    - Challenge to push beyond pesonal goals towards excellence
>
>
>    - It's how to be an actor in a particular field, habits and norms,
>    rather than just content knowledge
>
>
>    - This works well in established fields
>
>
>    - What about emerging, new fields, like most of our jobs? Geneticists
>    (grounded in other communities)
>
>
>    - I think there are very strong norms in the tech space
>
>
>    - Each community of practice/field comes out of other fields and will
>    retain some of the norms and practices from those fields
>
>
> III. Role of a Mentor
>
>    - Purpose
>
>
>    - Results
>
>
> IV. Implications for P2PU
>
>    - Expectations for Mentors
>
>
>    - Expertise--knowing the questions that the mentee needs to ask
>
>
>    - Humane-ness
>
>
>    - Sustained relationship
>
>
>    - Matchmaking
>
>
>    - both parties must opt-in
>
>
>    - Priorities for mentorship at P2PU
>
>
>    - Sense of shared success
>
>
>    - Impart confidence--someone who believes in you
>
>
>    - Norms and practices of that field
>
>
>    - Modeling a certain identity
>
>
>    - 3 levels of P2PU-style mentorship
>
>
>    - Staff, people who work on P2PU helping each other get their heads
>    around stuff)
>
>
>    - Community of course organisers - people who run courses now, how do
>    they get help from people who have done it before.
>
>
>    - Mentorship around communities of learning  - in schools, or the
>    mechanical MOOC
>
>
>    - How do we handle expertise in our community of learning? People want
>    to learn from others who know more than them, but in a flat community of
>    learning, how does this work?
>
>
>    - One option is to think about inviting teams in to evaluate an aspect
>    of the learning process and try to cultivate mentorship relationships out
>    of that.
>
>
>    - PS: people assume that in peer-to-peer learning everyone is equal.
>    This isn't necessarily the case, but we want to ensure that there is not
>    any kind of unequal power relationship
>
>
> Evolving, where both mentor and mentee adjust expecations, and the way
> they collaborate (incl. to decide that the need for mentorship was
> addressed)
>
>
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