[p2pu-dev] Multi task edit

Jos Flores josmasflores at gmail.com
Wed May 30 19:01:38 UTC 2012


I agree with Jessy, drag an dropping the tasks would a great
improvement and, in general, enough for my personal experience.

I do remember seeing the multi-task mockup and thinking that it would
be a great idea, but I have a feeling it is one of those things that
work great in paper(mockup) but the reality of the implementation
(things such as collapsing and losing track of things) makes them less
attractive.

Also agree with not making that decision lightly! :)

cheers,
José


On 30 May 2012 19:20, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> backbone does use ajax calls by default (even for the REST api calls)..  you
> can override the sync method with whatever custom code you want... eg. to
> speak to a django or any other backend. but FWIW i think there would be a
> sort of steep integration-curve so maybe not a decision to make lightly?
>
> @dirk - i think the goal of making course editing easier is a good one!
> personally, i find re-ordering of tasks is a huge pain point, one that gets
> worse as the number of tasks increases (side note: didn't someone submit a
> patch to make this ajax-y? what happened to that?). i personally haven't
> found found myself wanting the ability to editing multiple tasks at once
> actually, just because they tend to be somewhat independent of one another.
> but curious if others have because each course and group can be so very
> different!
>
> side point: jos/dirk/others, i would love to do a backbone challenge
> together sometime! :) i've been doing some work with backbone and it's fun.
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Jos Flores <josmasflores at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dirk,
>>
>> As you mention, this is almost a "1 page app" kind of page and for
>> something like this, with so much going on, I would also be pushed
>> towards full JS (something like Backbone; I'm over-committed right now
>> but would love to write a backbone challenge sometime, mainly to learn
>> it properly!).
>>
>> The view is getting quite complicated, with a lot of conditionals, and
>> I personally get lost in Django templates; that was the hardest part
>> to get my head around when I looked at Lernanta... there's stuff being
>> override everywhere and it loses me completely... but that's just me!
>> So I'd be pushed again towards full JS.
>>
>> The problem with using backbone is that it expects a REST API, but can
>> be override to work with normal AJAX calls:
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7948139/backbone-js-without-rest-using-asp-net-webservice
>>
>> cheers,
>> José
>>
>>
>> On 30 May 2012 14:07, Dirk Uys <dirk at p2pu.org> wrote:
>> > Hi José
>> >
>> > I tend to agree. I just noted it as looking horrible at first, but
>> > what you are saying about the lack of context is true. I'm busy
>> > tweaking the CSS a little to make it look better.
>> >
>> > Tasks numbers will be slightly more work than it should be. So will
>> > some of the style enhancements, but I'll look into them anyway.
>> >
>> > I'm not super excited about the way the Ajax is implemented. Currently
>> > the every task is like a little place holder for whatever the server
>> > returns for that task when you click on edit. Once the edit is
>> > finished, the embedded task is displayed again. The page holding all
>> > these little embedded task pages handles adding tasks via ajax. Moving
>> > and deleted causes page reloads.
>> >
>> > The alternative would be to do everything on one page with JavaScript.
>> > I haven't completely written off the idea, but I'm not overly keen on
>> > client side templating (maybe we need to do this in the long term?).
>> >
>> > I don't want to complicate things, but I also want the course creation
>> > and editing process to be pleasant.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > d
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Jos Flores <josmasflores at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hey Dirk,
>> >>
>> >> sorry to say I'm not too convinced about the interaction.
>> >> There is a lack of context, I guess due to not having styles applied.
>> >> Clicking edit in several tasks at the same time is a bit confusing.
>> >> And when you save, even though there is no full refresh, you lose
>> >> track of what you were doing cause it collapses (same goes for full
>> >> refresh when re-ordering).
>> >>
>> >> A bit more context would help, task numbers, styles, and so on. What
>> >> you think?
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> José
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 30 May 2012 11:32, Dirk Uys <dirk at p2pu.org> wrote:
>> >>> Hi everyone
>> >>>
>> >>> Please have a look at
>> >>> http://dev.p2pu.org:4456/en/groups/flying-101/edit/tasks/. You can log
>> >>> in using user1 and password1. It still needs to be integrated with the
>> >>> whole course creation process.
>> >>>
>> >>> The code for this can be found at
>> >>> https://github.com/dirkcuys/lernanta/tree/course_creation
>> >>>
>> >>> Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated!
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>> d
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