[p2pu-dev] Community Call Notes - 1 September 2011
Alison Cole
alison at p2pu.org
Wed Sep 7 18:12:21 UTC 2011
Hey Chloe all info on joining is on the pad: http://pad.p2pu.org/community
Hope to have you join us this THU!
ALISON
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Chloe Varelidi <chloe at varelidi.com> wrote:
> Hi Becca! thanks for sharing, how can I join this call?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Rebecca Kahn <bekka at p2pu.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Here are the notes from this week's community call. It was all things to
>> all people, and then some. Seriously.
>> Thanks to everyone who attended.
>> All notes, plus those from previous meetings, and the chat transcripts can
>> be found on the pad:* *http://pad.p2pu.org/community
>> *
>>
>> Agenda*
>>
>>
>> - Standups
>> - Feedback on UX [John is moving today - Philipp]
>> - Featured Courses for the weekly mailer
>> - Spam policy
>> - SoW discussion
>>
>>
>>
>> *Attendees*
>>
>>
>> - Alison
>> - Zuzel
>> - Bekka
>> - Philipp
>> - Gunner
>> - Artur
>> - Erin (tardy)
>>
>>
>>
>> *NOTES*
>>
>> *Stand-ups for projects*
>>
>> - Assesment & Badges [Erin - by email]
>> - Chloe starts today! Our new Assessment Specialist! Woo!
>> http://varelidi.com/
>> - We are working to define the badging strategy and requirements for
>> the Webcraft Challenges. Hope to have the plan finalized by the end of this
>> week or first thing next and the goal is to launch at the end of September
>> along with the first 5 or so challenges. Tracking here:
>> http://pad.p2pu.org/webcraft-challenges-badges
>> - Our advisory/design group is making headway on the assessment
>> framework paper - a deliverable required for the Hewlett grant but also
>> will be important to frame/model our assessments and evidence of learning
>> moving forward.
>> - P2PU is presenting the SoW badges in our nation's capital! Ali (and
>> maybe Jessy?) will be representing for P2PU at the MacArthur DML competition
>> (focused on badges) announcement event in DC and demoing the SoW badge work
>> up to this point with an audience that includes tons of media, fed agency
>> folks, industry bigwigs, etc.(translation: its a big deal). I am happy to
>> talk more about this at some point on the call if people are interested.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Metrics [Zuzel]
>> - Tracking of page views is on production (only visible on the admin
>> site)
>> - The UI that karen will see and later other organizer will see is on
>> a demo on http://alppha.p2pu.org:8092
>> - Jessica is working on finishing metrics work this week
>>
>>
>> - User Support [Alison / John]
>> - Adding content to knowledge base in help.p2pu.org
>> - feedback from the community welcome here as well
>> - Anyone can view the help desk as it currently is and offer feedback.
>> - *Ali w**ill prompt community to review within coming weeks, timing
>> will be tied in with UX changes*
>> - Would like admin to contribute core content for now.
>> - At the moment the help desk content is only in English, is there a
>> way to offer this in another language?
>> - Dependent on a community of non-English speakers who can offer
>> support, which we don't quite have yet, but maybe in time.
>> - *On the dev TODO list we have the implementation of Si**n**gle S**i*
>> *gn On for help.p2pu.org*
>>
>>
>> - Webcraft [John is moving today - Philipp]
>> - Challenges review process moving along -
>> - a lot of feedback from the community already
>> - http://webmaking101.p2pu.org/
>> - John will work with non-p2pu, non-developer people to see how they
>> go, so we can get some real live testing done.
>> - Final draft pushed out early next week for feedback
>>
>>
>> - UX
>> - A lot of progress made
>> - These are not totally final:
>> - http://alpha.p2pu.org:8091/en/schools/school-of-webcraft/
>> - http://alpha.p2pu.org:8091/en/
>> - Header and footer changes sent out for feedback
>> - Also need feedback about the fonts and background changes
>> - Zuzel rolling these out into the site at the moment
>>
>>
>> - Tech [Zuzel]
>> -
>> http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/09/01/new-features-on-p2pu-org-v-1-3/
>> - https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/wiki/Dev-Meetings-2011 <-- tech
>> update is mostly here
>>
>>
>> *Feedback on UX *
>>
>> - If anyone hasn't looked at John's emails (new header and footer),
>> please look at them, and give feedback on the list.
>> - We can revert changes, but always better to get it right before we
>> launch them
>> - General home page and schools home page chnages to come soon.
>> - Also need feedback about the backgrounds and fonts.
>> - Will this be in the course home page draft?
>>
>>
>> *Featured Courses*
>>
>> - What's the process to find good courses every week? Alison will
>> bring examples to the list
>> - Ok to include "courses under development"? yes
>> - Needs a tech change (will do it is already in place for schools,
>> just have to do it on the general list too)
>> - Question -> Can Ali provide a lit of things that are looking
>> interesting? She's in touch with course organizers a lot more / daily basis
>> - *Ali* to do a weekly round-up each week going forward
>> - Feature School of Ed courses this week
>> - See Karen's blog posts about this, and loads of tweets #p2puedu<http://pad.p2pu.org/ep/search?query=p2puedu>
>>
>>
>> *Spam policy*
>>
>> - Spammers are providing active links on the site to their commercial
>> sites
>> - Ideal will be to hide them completely
>> - This allows rolling back in case something turns out not to be SPAM
>> - Requires development work
>> - Also consider "nofollow" links to reduce
>> - But unless we can make sure SPAMers know it's not really effective
>> - But at least Google doesn't think of us as a spammer
>> - Question/ Boundary case:
>> - Pseudo course which points to someone's URL to increase search
>> results
>> - Need a policy:
>> - Very short -> 3 sentences
>> - We reserve the right to remove content that is unproductive or
>> inappropriate ...
>> - Get Gunner's input on this!
>>
>>
>> - *Bekka to draft for next week *
>> - Get feedback from community
>>
>>
>> *SoW*
>>
>> - Should SoW community members already running courses be allowed to
>> continue to do so? If someone proposes a new course, what happens?
>> - Nope - sorry *we probably don't want this*
>> - Sure - old model still works
>> - Is the new webcraft model still in the P2P spirit?
>> - Major changes to be made to how SoW works in the next little
>> while, in terms of how courses work, challenges, processes etc
>> - Change always has the potential to surface tension points, and we
>> need to consider where these might be and how we should deal with them
>> - For example: At the moment, we have several people who are running
>> successful courses, so how will these fit in with a challenges-oriented way
>> of doing things?
>> - Alison & Zuzel think: until we check if the challenges model is
>> successful we should not get rid of the old model and even if they are su
>> ccessful we need feedback from existing facilitators
>> - An untested challenges model which doesn't work will leave us with
>> nothing, which we want to avoid.
>> - Does this new model mean that more experts will be running courses,
>> and if this is the case does it mean that we might be moving away from the
>> Peer 2 Peer spirit of doing things?
>> - The challenges objective is to make it in fact more scaleable for
>> peer learning to happen
>> - It would be useful to get some documentation on what has worked/not
>> worked so far, so that we can communicate what changes are happening and why
>> - Inheritance of courses has been a problem
>> - Incentives to run courses has been a problem
>> - Need to make incentives for running courses AND for being
>> facilitators stronger.
>> - Charging for the second, third, fourth time round might be an
>> example
>> - Pushback on this has been strong
>>
>>
>> - Blog posts describing this:
>> -
>> http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/08/19/state-of-webcraft-webmaking-101/
>> -
>> http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/08/25/webmaking-101-my-first-few-super-weeks/
>> - *[Philipp]* Next steps:
>> - Communicate the thinking behind what's going on right now better
>> - Challenges we've felt with the courses model
>> - Ideas that will make it MORE p2p
>> - Linger in the problem space
>> - Plan A -> challenges
>> - What about plan B, or C -> let people pay/charge, higher bar to
>> become a facilitator
>> - Webcraft is a pilot (testing a new idea)
>> - Get it out broadly (blog, FB, twitter, email to community list)
>> - Include an ASK to the community
>> - Are we talking around the right problems?
>> - Next survey?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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