[p2pu-dev] Community Call Notes - 1 September 2011
Chloe Varelidi
chloe at varelidi.com
Thu Sep 1 17:12:16 UTC 2011
Hi Becca! thanks for sharing, how can I join this call?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Rebecca Kahn <bekka at p2pu.org> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Here are the notes from this week's community call. It was all things to
> all people, and then some. Seriously.
> Thanks to everyone who attended.
> All notes, plus those from previous meetings, and the chat transcripts can
> be found on the pad:* *http://pad.p2pu.org/community
> *
>
> Agenda*
>
>
> - Standups
> - Feedback on UX [John is moving today - Philipp]
> - Featured Courses for the weekly mailer
> - Spam policy
> - SoW discussion
>
>
>
> *Attendees*
>
>
> - Alison
> - Zuzel
> - Bekka
> - Philipp
> - Gunner
> - Artur
> - Erin (tardy)
>
>
>
> *NOTES*
>
> *Stand-ups for projects*
>
> - Assesment & Badges [Erin - by email]
> - Chloe starts today! Our new Assessment Specialist! Woo!
> http://varelidi.com/
> - We are working to define the badging strategy and requirements for
> the Webcraft Challenges. Hope to have the plan finalized by the end of this
> week or first thing next and the goal is to launch at the end of September
> along with the first 5 or so challenges. Tracking here:
> http://pad.p2pu.org/webcraft-challenges-badges
> - Our advisory/design group is making headway on the assessment
> framework paper - a deliverable required for the Hewlett grant but also
> will be important to frame/model our assessments and evidence of learning
> moving forward.
> - P2PU is presenting the SoW badges in our nation's capital! Ali (and
> maybe Jessy?) will be representing for P2PU at the MacArthur DML competition
> (focused on badges) announcement event in DC and demoing the SoW badge work
> up to this point with an audience that includes tons of media, fed agency
> folks, industry bigwigs, etc.(translation: its a big deal). I am happy to
> talk more about this at some point on the call if people are interested.
>
>
>
> - Metrics [Zuzel]
> - Tracking of page views is on production (only visible on the admin
> site)
> - The UI that karen will see and later other organizer will see is on a
> demo on http://alppha.p2pu.org:8092
> - Jessica is working on finishing metrics work this week
>
>
> - User Support [Alison / John]
> - Adding content to knowledge base in help.p2pu.org
> - feedback from the community welcome here as well
> - Anyone can view the help desk as it currently is and offer feedback.
> - *Ali w**ill prompt community to review within coming weeks, timing
> will be tied in with UX changes*
> - Would like admin to contribute core content for now.
> - At the moment the help desk content is only in English, is there a
> way to offer this in another language?
> - Dependent on a community of non-English speakers who can offer
> support, which we don't quite have yet, but maybe in time.
> - *On the dev TODO list we have the implementation of Si**n**gle S**i**gn
> On for help.p2pu.org*
>
>
> - Webcraft [John is moving today - Philipp]
> - Challenges review process moving along -
> - a lot of feedback from the community already
> - http://webmaking101.p2pu.org/
> - John will work with non-p2pu, non-developer people to see how they
> go, so we can get some real live testing done.
> - Final draft pushed out early next week for feedback
>
>
> - UX
> - A lot of progress made
> - These are not totally final:
> - http://alpha.p2pu.org:8091/en/schools/school-of-webcraft/
> - http://alpha.p2pu.org:8091/en/
> - Header and footer changes sent out for feedback
> - Also need feedback about the fonts and background changes
> - Zuzel rolling these out into the site at the moment
>
>
> - Tech [Zuzel]
> - http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/09/01/new-features-on-p2pu-org-v-1-3/
> - https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/wiki/Dev-Meetings-2011 <-- tech
> update is mostly here
>
>
> *Feedback on UX *
>
> - If anyone hasn't looked at John's emails (new header and footer),
> please look at them, and give feedback on the list.
> - We can revert changes, but always better to get it right before we
> launch them
> - General home page and schools home page chnages to come soon.
> - Also need feedback about the backgrounds and fonts.
> - Will this be in the course home page draft?
>
>
> *Featured Courses*
>
> - What's the process to find good courses every week? Alison will bring
> examples to the list
> - Ok to include "courses under development"? yes
> - Needs a tech change (will do it is already in place for schools, just
> have to do it on the general list too)
> - Question -> Can Ali provide a lit of things that are looking
> interesting? She's in touch with course organizers a lot more / daily basis
> - *Ali* to do a weekly round-up each week going forward
> - Feature School of Ed courses this week
> - See Karen's blog posts about this, and loads of tweets #p2puedu<http://pad.p2pu.org/ep/search?query=p2puedu>
>
>
> *Spam policy*
>
> - Spammers are providing active links on the site to their commercial
> sites
> - Ideal will be to hide them completely
> - This allows rolling back in case something turns out not to be SPAM
> - Requires development work
> - Also consider "nofollow" links to reduce
> - But unless we can make sure SPAMers know it's not really effective
> - But at least Google doesn't think of us as a spammer
> - Question/ Boundary case:
> - Pseudo course which points to someone's URL to increase search
> results
> - Need a policy:
> - Very short -> 3 sentences
> - We reserve the right to remove content that is unproductive or
> inappropriate ...
> - Get Gunner's input on this!
>
>
> - *Bekka to draft for next week *
> - Get feedback from community
>
>
> *SoW*
>
> - Should SoW community members already running courses be allowed to
> continue to do so? If someone proposes a new course, what happens?
> - Nope - sorry *we probably don't want this*
> - Sure - old model still works
> - Is the new webcraft model still in the P2P spirit?
> - Major changes to be made to how SoW works in the next little
> while, in terms of how courses work, challenges, processes etc
> - Change always has the potential to surface tension points, and we
> need to consider where these might be and how we should deal with them
> - For example: At the moment, we have several people who are running
> successful courses, so how will these fit in with a challenges-oriented way
> of doing things?
> - Alison & Zuzel think: until we check if the challenges model is
> successful we should not get rid of the old model and even if they are su
> ccessful we need feedback from existing facilitators
> - An untested challenges model which doesn't work will leave us with
> nothing, which we want to avoid.
> - Does this new model mean that more experts will be running courses,
> and if this is the case does it mean that we might be moving away from the
> Peer 2 Peer spirit of doing things?
> - The challenges objective is to make it in fact more scaleable for
> peer learning to happen
> - It would be useful to get some documentation on what has worked/not
> worked so far, so that we can communicate what changes are happening and why
> - Inheritance of courses has been a problem
> - Incentives to run courses has been a problem
> - Need to make incentives for running courses AND for being
> facilitators stronger.
> - Charging for the second, third, fourth time round might be an
> example
> - Pushback on this has been strong
>
>
> - Blog posts describing this:
> -
> http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/08/19/state-of-webcraft-webmaking-101/
> -
> http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/08/25/webmaking-101-my-first-few-super-weeks/
> - *[Philipp]* Next steps:
> - Communicate the thinking behind what's going on right now better
> - Challenges we've felt with the courses model
> - Ideas that will make it MORE p2p
> - Linger in the problem space
> - Plan A -> challenges
> - What about plan B, or C -> let people pay/charge, higher bar to
> become a facilitator
> - Webcraft is a pilot (testing a new idea)
> - Get it out broadly (blog, FB, twitter, email to community list)
> - Include an ASK to the community
> - Are we talking around the right problems?
> - Next survey?
>
>
>
>
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Chloe Varelidi
http://varelidi.com/
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