[p2pu-dev] users are starting to create "challenges"

Thu Oct 6 16:37:05 UTC 2011

Yep, I totally missed that. :)

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Alison Cole <alison at p2pu.org> wrote:

> Rather than making any more changes perhaps we can update and strengthen
> the text about "other". The light gray makes it easy to dismiss/skip over.
>
> Current: "Optionally provide a term more specific than study group,
> course, or challenge, and the corresponding description. "
>
> New (*please tweak*): "You can experiment with all of these options by providing
> a term more specific than study group, course, or challenge, such as
> workshop, personal learning plan, reading group, etc."
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org> wrote:
>
>> I think users just get confused, because there is no "other" radio
>> button.
>>
>> If there was an "Other" option that you click and then get access to the
>> text fields - it might solve it.
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>> On 6 October 2011 17:59, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am getting confused. -- Screen shots to check everyone is seeing the
>>> same fields in the creation form:
>>> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6229/6217220435_cc830ae73a_b.jpg
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>    Zuzel
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jessica Ledbetter
>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>>> > But we used to be able to select "Other" and then could write-in things
>>> like
>>> > "Seminar" or "Workshop" or something that was more fitting for what we
>>> were
>>> > doing. I don't think we have any of those right now but that was
>>> something
>>> > I, as a user, was thinking of making.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:40 AM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Ali,
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought I already clarified this before. Will try to describe the
>>> >> change again. Let me know if I am missing something.
>>> >>
>>> >> The other option was not removed to make place for challenges. The
>>> >> other option was replaced by a different implementation to not
>>> >> restrict users to only be able to use the study groups functionality
>>> >> when creating other learning project.
>>> >>
>>> >> Before users select an other radio button and filled out a new term
>>> >> and short description, and we then made the othe group work like a
>>> >> study group and replaced its name (i.e. Study Group) by the provided
>>> >> term.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now they can choose study group, course or challenge and provide a new
>>> >> term short description, and we then make the group work like whatever
>>> >> they selected and replace the name (i.e. Study Group, Course,
>>> >> Challenge) by the provided term.
>>> >>
>>> >> Users with a DIY U learning plan should not be affected since
>>> >> selecting study group and providing a new term works exactly as the
>>> >> previous functionality they were using.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>    Zuzel
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Alison Cole <alison at p2pu.org> wrote:
>>> >> > We were using the "other" option for users in DIY U to create
>>> personal
>>> >> > learning plans. This option was over-rided to make way for
>>> challenges.
>>> >> > Now
>>> >> > users in DIY U have no way to hack the P2PU site to create a
>>> personal
>>> >> > learning plan. This is a problem for us.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ALISON
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:02 AM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Right now there is nothing webcraft specific hardcoded in the
>>> >> >> implementation. Hidding the creation will complicate things a bit
>>> more
>>> >> >> at the implementation level. It will also not allow people to test
>>> the
>>> >> >> new kind of group (without using the actual webmaking 101
>>> challenges
>>> >> >> as sandbox for testing). If we are moving towards it (i.e. some of
>>> the
>>> >> >> features could become a main part of p2pu), I think it is important
>>> to
>>> >> >> have challenges as an option. We even made use of this capability
>>> in
>>> >> >> the first community call by sugesting one of the participants  to
>>> test
>>> >> >> out this kind of group for Bio 101. If challenges were not open at
>>> >> >> that time I will had to manually give that user special access or
>>> we
>>> >> >> will not be able to test them at all. Changing between kinds of
>>> groups
>>> >> >> is easy so they can change back  the group to study group or course
>>> >> >> any time. I will vote to include something like (new) in the desc
>>> of
>>> >> >> the kind of group and start their longer description at
>>> help.p2pu.org.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thoughts?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >>    Zuzel
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > I've noticed that there is at least one new challenge that was
>>> >> >> > created
>>> >> >> > by a
>>> >> >> > user:
>>> >> >> > http://p2pu.org/en/groups/how-to-make-screencasts/
>>> >> >> > Since we are really driving development of the challenge UX to
>>> >> >> > support
>>> >> >> > webcraft, it might not really work for public challenges (yet).
>>> Of
>>> >> >> > course
>>> >> >> > that's where we want to get to in the future.
>>> >> >> > Maybe for now, we should let users know that they are working
>>> with an
>>> >> >> > experimental "study group type" or even hide the option to create
>>> >> >> > them
>>> >> >> > challegnes from non-admin users.
>>> >> >> > Thoughts?
>>> >> >> > P
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>>> >> >
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