[p2pu-dev] first impressions on new.p2pu

Tue May 24 19:31:39 UTC 2011

I've got experience using Solr, hopefully will have some time to work on
that a bit this summer.
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Pippa Buchanan
<Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 for google search in the interim.
>
>
> On 23 May 2011 15:55, Jessica Ledbetter <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com>wrote:
>
>> We could start with a google search like Zuzel mentioned and then swap
>> out for our own down the road. Right now the search results from
>> Google are not that great but maybe with enough fine tuning it will do
>> as a stopgap.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> > Cool, I'm not familiar with sphinx search. I wonder if Paul has any
>> > thoughts/experience on sphinx search versus solr? Adding him to cc :)
>> >
>> > Jessy
>> >
>> > On Monday, May 23, 2011, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >>> re user sign up-- sorry i wasn't clear. i meant signing up for a
>> course, not
>> >>> an account. he already had an account, but couldn't find where to sign
>> up
>> >>> for a specific course that was open for sign up. for these courses,
>> could we
>> >>> have a bigger button(s) near the top of the course homepage?
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://p2pu.lighthouseapp.com/projects/71002/tickets/337-move-follow-participate-and-contact-organiser-buttons-above-the-fold
>> >>
>> >>> re search, have you thought about something like
>> >>> solr? http://lucene.apache.org/solr/
>> >>> solr indexes along any fields you define (typically multiple), to
>> enable
>> >>> fast real time search given a large variety of potential
>> parameters/filters.
>> >>> it trades off space (ie, the indexes can get big) for speed and
>> scalability,
>> >>> basically. it's used on many "high traffic
>> >>> websites": http://wiki.apache.org/solr/PublicServers.
>> >>> i set up solr for one of my projects at sunlight and worked a lot with
>> index
>> >>> definitions; if there's interest i would be happy to set it up for us.
>> it's
>> >>> free and open source. index space isn't an issue for us AFAIK, but the
>> main
>> >>> potential drawback i could imagine is that our dev server probably
>> couldn't
>> >>> handle the extra load. thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Any experiments on implementing search are welcome, and now that we
>> >> can import course content from the old site it will be easier to test
>> >> performance in a dev instance. However, I recommend not including it
>> >> in production until we are sure both search and indexing works for
>> >> larges amounts of data (at least comparable to what we have in the old
>> >> site right now), and that it does not cause lock errors.
>> >>
>> >> The last time we meet with Paul we talked about
>> >> http://sphinxsearch.com/ with is used by
>> >> https://github.com/jbalogh/zamboni/tree/master/apps/search. That is
>> >> another one we could experiment with, though it also has its
>> >> performance issues.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>     Zuzel
>> >>
>> >>> Jessy
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://jessykate.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Philipp Schmidt <
>> phi.schmidt at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Search is a problem we hoped batucada would solve.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Zuzel: could you check with Paul what the status on that is?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> To reduce confusion on the courses list page, we could also consider
>> >>>> listing draft courses on a separate page.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> P
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 23 May 2011 12:17 AM, "zuzel.vp" <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > Sign up/Registration of new accounts was temporarily hidden on
>> >>>> > purpose. Before the migration occurs we need users not to create
>> new
>> >>>> > accounts unless they had never used the old site so they keep their
>> >>>> > identities. After the creation of new accounts in the old site is
>> >>>> > disabled we will migrate all user accounts to the new site. At that
>> >>>> > point we will not need anymore the current restriction of not
>> allowing
>> >>>> > any user to register accounts with username/email from the old site
>> >>>> > (unless they proved that they are the same person by login in with
>> >>>> > their username and password from the old site). After the migration
>> we
>> >>>> > can make signup more visible again (either by having all the forms
>> on
>> >>>> > the same page or by adding a direct link like in
>> drumbeat/batucada).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Most of the tickets are not assigned to a milestone now because we
>> had
>> >>>> > to re-schedule things in order to move the migration to an early
>> date.
>> >>>> > However even before this, search was assigned I think to milestone
>> 0.9
>> >>>> > because it is a feature hard to implement in a way that scales. All
>> >>>> > solutions I have seen including search in a django project tend to
>> >>>> > become considerable slow when they are setup in a real world
>> scenario.
>> >>>> > One solution could be to rely google for including search
>> capabilities
>> >>>> > (http://www.google.com/cse/).
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thoughs?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> > Thanks,
>> >>>> > Zuzel
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>> >>>> > <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> Agree with both of Jessy's suggestions.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> ALISON
>> >>>> >> new.p2pu.org/en/alison/
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, John Britton
>> >>>> >> <public at johndbritton.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> I also think we should make the signup/signin box happen on the
>> same
>> >>>> >>> page
>> >>>> >>> as opposed to redirecting to a new page, less friction overall.
>> >>>> >>> --
>> >>>> >>> contact info:
>> >>>> >>> http://www.johndbritton.com
>> >>>> >>> @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >>>> >>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> 2 pieces of feedback on someone looking at the new.p2pu site.
>> >>>> >>>> i had recommended they create an account in order to sign up for
>> a
>> >>>> >>>> specific course. so of course the first thing they looked for
>> was
>> >>>> >>>> a search
>> >>>> >>>> box. there's quite a lot of courses now, so i wonder if the
>> "search
>> >>>> >>>> box"
>> >>>> >>>> ticket on lighthouse might deserve to be moved up a bit in
>> priority
>> >>>> >>>> (currently "unscheduled")?
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Jessy
>> > --
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