[p2pu-dev] first impressions on new.p2pu

Jessy Kate Schingler jessy at jessykate.com
Mon May 23 13:38:06 UTC 2011


Cool, I'm not familiar with sphinx search. I wonder if Paul has any
thoughts/experience on sphinx search versus solr? Adding him to cc :)

Jessy

On Monday, May 23, 2011, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> re user sign up-- sorry i wasn't clear. i meant signing up for a course, not
>> an account. he already had an account, but couldn't find where to sign up
>> for a specific course that was open for sign up. for these courses, could we
>> have a bigger button(s) near the top of the course homepage?
>
> http://p2pu.lighthouseapp.com/projects/71002/tickets/337-move-follow-participate-and-contact-organiser-buttons-above-the-fold
>
>> re search, have you thought about something like
>> solr? http://lucene.apache.org/solr/
>> solr indexes along any fields you define (typically multiple), to enable
>> fast real time search given a large variety of potential parameters/filters.
>> it trades off space (ie, the indexes can get big) for speed and scalability,
>> basically. it's used on many "high traffic
>> websites": http://wiki.apache.org/solr/PublicServers.
>> i set up solr for one of my projects at sunlight and worked a lot with index
>> definitions; if there's interest i would be happy to set it up for us. it's
>> free and open source. index space isn't an issue for us AFAIK, but the main
>> potential drawback i could imagine is that our dev server probably couldn't
>> handle the extra load. thoughts?
>
> Any experiments on implementing search are welcome, and now that we
> can import course content from the old site it will be easier to test
> performance in a dev instance. However, I recommend not including it
> in production until we are sure both search and indexing works for
> larges amounts of data (at least comparable to what we have in the old
> site right now), and that it does not cause lock errors.
>
> The last time we meet with Paul we talked about
> http://sphinxsearch.com/ with is used by
> https://github.com/jbalogh/zamboni/tree/master/apps/search. That is
> another one we could experiment with, though it also has its
> performance issues.
>
> --
> Thanks,
>     Zuzel
>
>> Jessy
>> --
>> http://jessykate.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Philipp Schmidt <phi.schmidt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Search is a problem we hoped batucada would solve.
>>>
>>> Zuzel: could you check with Paul what the status on that is?
>>>
>>> To reduce confusion on the courses list page, we could also consider
>>> listing draft courses on a separate page.
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>> On 23 May 2011 12:17 AM, "zuzel.vp" <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Sign up/Registration of new accounts was temporarily hidden on
>>> > purpose. Before the migration occurs we need users not to create new
>>> > accounts unless they had never used the old site so they keep their
>>> > identities. After the creation of new accounts in the old site is
>>> > disabled we will migrate all user accounts to the new site. At that
>>> > point we will not need anymore the current restriction of not allowing
>>> > any user to register accounts with username/email from the old site
>>> > (unless they proved that they are the same person by login in with
>>> > their username and password from the old site). After the migration we
>>> > can make signup more visible again (either by having all the forms on
>>> > the same page or by adding a direct link like in drumbeat/batucada).
>>> >
>>> > Most of the tickets are not assigned to a milestone now because we had
>>> > to re-schedule things in order to move the migration to an early date.
>>> > However even before this, search was assigned I think to milestone 0.9
>>> > because it is a feature hard to implement in a way that scales. All
>>> > solutions I have seen including search in a django project tend to
>>> > become considerable slow when they are setup in a real world scenario.
>>> > One solution could be to rely google for including search capabilities
>>> > (http://www.google.com/cse/).
>>> >
>>> > Thoughs?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Zuzel
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>>> > <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Agree with both of Jessy's suggestions.
>>> >>
>>> >> ALISON
>>> >> new.p2pu.org/en/alison/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, John Britton
>>> >> <public at johndbritton.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I also think we should make the signup/signin box happen on the same
>>> >>> page
>>> >>> as opposed to redirecting to a new page, less friction overall.
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> contact info:
>>> >>> http://www.johndbritton.com
>>> >>> @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>> >>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 2 pieces of feedback on someone looking at the new.p2pu site.
>>> >>>> i had recommended they create an account in order to sign up for a
>>> >>>> specific course. so of course the first thing they looked for was
>>> >>>> a search
>>> >>>> box. there's quite a lot of courses now, so i wonder if the "search
>>> >>>> box"
>>> >>>> ticket on lighthouse might deserve to be moved up a bit in priority
>>> >>>> (currently "unscheduled")?
>

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