[p2pu-dev] [p2pu-community] Fwd: YUE +p2pu

[zuzel.vp]

I thought YUE was some kind of organization in china (maybe related to
universities?). Alan can probably clarify what is YUE. Do they already
have their own domain? They were talking about setting up a home-grown
solution there, so I though the part of hosting inside China was not
going to be an issue for them.

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Thanks,
    Zuzel

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, hosting your own software in China is quite difficult. I
> think there is a limitation of who can register a domain, you might have to
> be a company and satisfy a large capital requirement to quality, then there
> are a lot of requirements re self-censorship etc. The reason for this is
> that mainland-hosted sites are inside the great firewall, so the government
> is completely reliant upon self-censorship. There's no way I could set up my
> own domain to host my WordPress blog in China, because then the government
> would not be easily able to control what I post, and who sees it. Instead, I
> must blog on one of the large platforms, which both have software
> automatically blocking certain words, and human censors.



> So I am guessing that what Yue is proposing is to use existing Web 2.0 sites
> in China to do their learning.
> Note that Hong Kong is outside the great firewall, and can be blocked just
> as easily as any other international location.
> I think the most important thing is for people to start doing this in China
> at all - I've been travelling around giving talks or years encouraging
> people to start open courses etc - they have massive amount of both legally
> OER and other resources of dubious origin :) Hopefully P2PU could help with
> all of our experience in social learning, etc.
> (PS: Alan, I am in China right now. Mostly in a village, but will be
> visiting Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Shanghai and Beijing at various points. Would
> love to meet up with some of these people if you can introduce us).
> Stian
>
> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 08:09, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2011/5/20 Alan Webb <alancwebb at gmail.com>:
>> >  Their concerns all seem to stem from a fear that the site could become
>> > blocked any day, for example by some unmoderated political content
>> > getting
>> > posted.
>>
>> Did they considered to setup a smaller but highly moderated (which
>> maybe only lets people register if they have email accounts in china)
>> instance of the software (hosted in china)? It will probably be easier
>> to integrate our site with another site that runs the same software
>> (https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta) that with another home-grown
>> solution. In the future if the main p2pu.org becomes blocked in china,
>> they could still preserve their own p2pu site. Of course they will
>> need people in charge of removing and banning users who post
>> politically controversial content in their site.
>>
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>> Thanks,
>>    Zuzel
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