[p2pu-dev] UI changes for 0.5 [ was Re: release 0.4]

John Britton public at johndbritton.com
Sun May 8 01:47:07 UTC 2011 

I really like this, definitely want to continue in this direction.
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2011/5/3 João Antonio de Menezes Neto <tonyhomes at gmail.com>

> Please find attached the JPG of the new simulation.
> Let´s open the proposals to discussion.
>
> João
>
> Em 3 de maio de 2011 16:30, João Antonio de Menezes Neto <
> tonyhomes at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> I'm doing another simulation based on Pippa's suggestions, will send you
>> guys by tonight (it's 4 pm here now (-: )
>>
>>
>> 2011/5/3 Alison Jean Cole <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hey Pippa,
>>>
>>> I'm really into this layout. As a learner, this makes more sense. When I
>>> visit my study group, my primary activities would be to visit the task I am
>>> working on and hit the resources I need. Then recent activity would be my
>>> secondary interest.
>>>
>>>
>>> ALISON
>>> new.p2pu.org/en/alison/ <http://p2pu.org/users/alison>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>>> jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> interesting! i like that idea.
>>>>
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>>>> 2011/5/3 João Antonio de Menezes Neto <tonyhomes at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Really liked your suggestion, Pippa.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/5/3 Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> New Study Group Layout ? https://cacoo.com/diagrams/xZ6mQut2Ha6wYoO6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tasks, Links, Activity Wall should all have a full page version, but
>>>>>> you'd be able to browse tasks and resources from the front page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps there could be icons for the tasks that you could choose from
>>>>>> eg. "Read" "Discuss", "Meet", "Make", "Share" "Create" "Watch" etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 May 2011 22:14, Alison Jean Cole <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd love to see tasks and key links have more emphasis and activity
>>>>>>> streams less. I imagine there could be many stylistic ways to implement
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Older layout: https://cacoo.com/diagrams/o37hflfZsbenu9c4 Perhaps we
>>>>>>> can toy around with this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ALISON
>>>>>>> new.p2pu.org/en/alison/ <http://p2pu.org/users/alison>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011/5/2 João Antonio de Menezes Neto <tonyhomes at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good point, Stian [?]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2011/5/2 Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Right now we are also using a lot of space, both for the links, but
>>>>>>>>> especially for the activity streams - we could use a _LOT_ less space on
>>>>>>>>> each activity stream, which I think would make things a lot more
>>>>>>>>> manageable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/2 João Antonio de Menezes Neto <tonyhomes at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we need improvements to External Links (take a look at
>>>>>>>>>> http://new.p2pu.org/en/groups/baroque-art-of-italy-spain-and-the-netherlands/)
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could collapse them by 10 most visited or something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 2 de maio de 2011 08:13, João Antonio de Menezes Neto <
>>>>>>>>>> tonyhomes at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Agreed [?]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/2 John Britton <public at johndbritton.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've got no real opinion on where the "BETA" text ends up, put
>>>>>>>>>>>> it where it looks good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that the footer should go back to what the original
>>>>>>>>>>>> mockups from BCN included (maybe we haven't gotten there yet).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also agree that a logged in user should be able to go back to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the home page, I was confused by this a few days ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the idea of collapsing user - inbox - logout. See Gmail
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Twitter for examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly the dropdowns should respect hover. Do note that right
>>>>>>>>>>>> now you can open both at the same time which is really strange.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/1 João Antonio de Menezes Neto <tonyhomes at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now some considerations about the site when the user is already
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logged-in:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - there's no way to get back to the start page that says "we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an open...". there's the global updates for the whole p2pu there, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an interesting view even for who's already logged in (sorry if there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already a manner to get back to that page, but I don't know how to access
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - i wonder if we could make "User - Inbox - Logout" 1 single
>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu? There could be a small iphone-ish badge in the user's photo or next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his/her name + an envelope icon to show he's got new messages. "Logout"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be the last item listed in the dropdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - we really should implement hover instead of just clicking for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropdowns as well as the arrow i told you about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - another branding opportunity would be to place a small
>>>>>>>>>>>>> icon/badge or change the text color of the buttons that say which study
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group the message has been posted on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a quick visual tweak: the "Follow" and "Private message"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buttons are using different fonts from each other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - there's no title on the area on which each persons posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his/her external links. the margin between the links could be smaller to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give impression they are a list and just not free chunks of text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - setting a standart size to study groups avatars is really a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guess thats all for now ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 1 de maio de 2011 18:00, João Antonio de Menezes Neto <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonyhomes at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a quick clarifying question, Philipp posted "Make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breadcrum sub-header of the group title" but the ideal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario would be "Make breadcrumb a navigation menu for the study group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas - Update's Wall, Tasks, etc).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [?]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 1 de maio de 2011 17:57, João Antonio de Menezes Neto <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tonyhomes at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the great advantage of having the footer as the original psd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it works as an index/table of contents of the whole site, allowing global
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation without the need of opening dropdown menus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i agree with jessica that the gray area Aleks had drawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> served as a good protection area for the brand and it also allowed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delimited space to play with schools logos/icons/badges. i remember that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gray area wasn't near enough of the heading div, it was originally planned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have 0px of margin between them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/5/1 Philipp Schmidt <phi.schmidt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 May 2011 16:16, Jessica Ledbetter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Zuzel made a task with his suggestions. I'm guessing we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just need approval
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > from you, Philipp?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All suggestions will increase usability, and there hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dissent on this list. Let's go ahead and implement them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://p2pu.lighthouseapp.com/projects/71002/tickets/253-joao-suggestions#ticket-253-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've added Joao's mock-up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > And whatever other changes we need UI-wise and we'll get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it in there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm still hoping for a new logo or the grey to come back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A designer friend will send us some suggestions. For now, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean up as much as possible (Joao mentioned cleaning out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the grey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the heads of the letters P) and make a tiny bit smaller
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't touch against the borders.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I put in BETA lower right of the logo because that seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty popular and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > worked, in my opinion, with the grey angles. Doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really use up too much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > real estate though but seems off balance without the grey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. We can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > definitely play with placement/size especially if we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at school
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > branding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In general, I think the BETA is great where it is. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move it to top right, so we get a little more space to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rest of the page. If it looks funny, let's not do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I also would like to see the footer become more like the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original PSD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > design. I think we're at a point (or very close to it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > content parts we needed for it (like about, help, etc).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I can delete the grey out of the P2PU logo if we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the new one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > before 0.5 goes live.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Fingers crossed still ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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