[p2pu-dev] metrics script - github?

Wed Jun 22 14:11:43 UTC 2011

Exactly what I meant :-)

On 22 June 2011 22:17, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:

> ... er, is that what you meant? :)
>
> Jessy
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> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com
> > wrote:
>
>> the idea is to have a simple web frontend for people to access the info
>> at.
>>
>> Jessy
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>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome that there is metrics progress.
>>> How will school orgs be able to access the metrics information?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 June 2011 13:38, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Damnit! Will fix.
>>>>
>>>> --sent from my mobile
>>>> On Jun 21, 2011 9:46 PM, "John Britton" <public at johndbritton.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > @Jessy - Did you name it "Degress-of-Freedom" on purpose, or did you
>>>> mean
>>>> > Degrees-of-Freedom?
>>>> > --
>>>> > contact info:
>>>> > http://www.johndbritton.com
>>>> > @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Sounds good. -- Then you can from time to time download the latest
>>>> >> lernanta code and run the migrations on you copy of the db so you can
>>>> >> update the scripts (and update the setup of Degress-of-Freedom in
>>>> >> production on release days).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> Zuzel
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>>> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > yeah-- but just to be clear, this isn't meant to be *part of*
>>>> lernanta--
>>>> >> > it's just a script to give us a sense of metrics regarding
>>>> participation.
>>>> >> > so for example, showing some tables, graphs, stats, etc.
>>>> >> > i don't see that as conceptually part of lernanta, unless you think
>>>> we
>>>> >> > could/should integrate it into admin somehow? IMHO this is more
>>>> effort
>>>> >> than
>>>> >> > it's worth, especially right now as we figure out what we want to
>>>> >> include,
>>>> >> > but that could be because i'd have to learn how to do that :). but
>>>> i
>>>> >> would
>>>> >> > imagine (eventually!) something more like munin's output than a
>>>> typical
>>>> >> > django admin interface, eg:
>>>> >> > http://oierud.name/bliki/munin-mysql.png
>>>> >> > anyhoo, in the meantime i've set up a repo here:
>>>> >> > https://github.com/p2pu/Degress-of-Freedom
>>>> >> > we can always merge if that's the direction we want to go!
>>>> >> > (as a side note-- is it possible to create a repo within an
>>>> organization
>>>> >> > without first creating one within your personal account and then
>>>> forking
>>>> >> it?
>>>> >> > seems a little silly but i couldnt find another way to do it).
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Jessy
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > http://jessykate.com
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:51 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> If it will have its own front end then it makes sense to have
>>>> another
>>>> >> >> repo. Any reason why you are not using the lernanta as frontend?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >> Zuzel
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>>> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> > they are definitely wholly dependent on the DB schema, but other
>>>> than
>>>> >> >> > that
>>>> >> >> > not really related in terms of development. also it will end up
>>>> having
>>>> >> >> > it's
>>>> >> >> > own front end as well-- something simple, but seems like it
>>>> would be
>>>> >> >> > clutter
>>>> >> >> > in the lernanta repo. i dunno, i think it probably makes more
>>>> sense to
>>>> >> >> > create a separate repo-- but am easy if you feel strongly!
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Jessy
>>>> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:14 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> If they are scripts (quite related to lernanta) maybe you could
>>>> >> submit
>>>> >> >> >> them to the lernanta repo (they could be in their own folder).
>>>> If we
>>>> >> >> >> update the db schema in parts that those scripts are using we
>>>> could
>>>> >> >> >> update them at the same time.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >> >> Zuzel
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>>> >> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > awesome, i'll start a repo.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Jessy
>>>> >> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:53 PM, zuzel.vp <
>>>> zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> Yes, the structure of the database is public. It makes sense
>>>> to
>>>> >> >> >> >> store
>>>> >> >> >> >> and maintain the script on github.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 19, 2011, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>>>> >> jessy at jessykate.com>
>>>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> >> > thoughts about putting the metrics script on github?
>>>> >> >> >> >> > (for reminder/information, the metrics script will give us
>>>> a set
>>>> >> >> >> >> > of
>>>> >> >> >> >> > stats on participation and engagement across different
>>>> strata--
>>>> >> >> >> >> > basic
>>>> >> >> >> >> > stuff
>>>> >> >> >> >> > like users per course and school, etc. and evolving over
>>>> time.
>>>> >> our
>>>> >> >> >> >> > etherpad
>>>> >> >> >> >> > on desired metrics is here: http://pad.p2pu.org/metrics,
>>>> and
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >> >> >> > queries in
>>>> >> >> >> >> > bold are what the initial script will focus on)
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> > it is essentially a bunch of raw sql queries against the
>>>> DB. it
>>>> >> >> >> >> > doesn't
>>>> >> >> >> >> > involve any personal information, and only retrieves
>>>> counts
>>>> >> >> >> >> > of aggregates.
>>>> >> >> >> >> > however, i know the DB is sensitive, and there is arguably
>>>> >> >> >> >> > security
>>>> >> >> >> >> > through
>>>> >> >> >> >> > obscurity in terms of DB structure. on the other hand, i
>>>> don;t
>>>> >> >> >> >> > think
>>>> >> >> >> >> > it
>>>> >> >> >> >> > reveals anything sensitive, and anyone familiar with
>>>> django
>>>> >> would
>>>> >> >> >> >> > know what
>>>> >> >> >> >> > our DB looks like by reading the lernanta code, and having
>>>> it on
>>>> >> >> >> >> > github will
>>>> >> >> >> >> > allow others to contribute.
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> > input?
>>>> >> >> >> >> > Jessy--http://jessykate.com
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >> >
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