[p2pu-dev] metrics script - github?

[Jessy Kate Schingler]

the idea is to have a simple web frontend for people to access the info at.


Jessy
--
http://jessykate.com



On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>wrote:

> Awesome that there is metrics progress.
> How will school orgs be able to access the metrics information?
>
>
> On 22 June 2011 13:38, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>
>> Damnit! Will fix.
>>
>> --sent from my mobile
>> On Jun 21, 2011 9:46 PM, "John Britton" <public at johndbritton.com> wrote:
>> > @Jessy - Did you name it "Degress-of-Freedom" on purpose, or did you
>> mean
>> > Degrees-of-Freedom?
>> > --
>> > contact info:
>> > http://www.johndbritton.com
>> > @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sounds good. -- Then you can from time to time download the latest
>> >> lernanta code and run the migrations on you copy of the db so you can
>> >> update the scripts (and update the setup of Degress-of-Freedom in
>> >> production on release days).
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Zuzel
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >> > yeah-- but just to be clear, this isn't meant to be *part of*
>> lernanta--
>> >> > it's just a script to give us a sense of metrics regarding
>> participation.
>> >> > so for example, showing some tables, graphs, stats, etc.
>> >> > i don't see that as conceptually part of lernanta, unless you think
>> we
>> >> > could/should integrate it into admin somehow? IMHO this is more
>> effort
>> >> than
>> >> > it's worth, especially right now as we figure out what we want to
>> >> include,
>> >> > but that could be because i'd have to learn how to do that :). but i
>> >> would
>> >> > imagine (eventually!) something more like munin's output than a
>> typical
>> >> > django admin interface, eg:
>> >> > http://oierud.name/bliki/munin-mysql.png
>> >> > anyhoo, in the meantime i've set up a repo here:
>> >> > https://github.com/p2pu/Degress-of-Freedom
>> >> > we can always merge if that's the direction we want to go!
>> >> > (as a side note-- is it possible to create a repo within an
>> organization
>> >> > without first creating one within your personal account and then
>> forking
>> >> it?
>> >> > seems a little silly but i couldnt find another way to do it).
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jessy
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://jessykate.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:51 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If it will have its own front end then it makes sense to have
>> another
>> >> >> repo. Any reason why you are not using the lernanta as frontend?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Zuzel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > they are definitely wholly dependent on the DB schema, but other
>> than
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > not really related in terms of development. also it will end up
>> having
>> >> >> > it's
>> >> >> > own front end as well-- something simple, but seems like it would
>> be
>> >> >> > clutter
>> >> >> > in the lernanta repo. i dunno, i think it probably makes more
>> sense to
>> >> >> > create a separate repo-- but am easy if you feel strongly!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jessy
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:14 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> If they are scripts (quite related to lernanta) maybe you could
>> >> submit
>> >> >> >> them to the lernanta repo (they could be in their own folder). If
>> we
>> >> >> >> update the db schema in parts that those scripts are using we
>> could
>> >> >> >> update them at the same time.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> Zuzel
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > awesome, i'll start a repo.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Jessy
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:53 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com
>> >
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yes, the structure of the database is public. It makes sense
>> to
>> >> >> >> >> store
>> >> >> >> >> and maintain the script on github.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 19, 2011, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>> >> jessy at jessykate.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > thoughts about putting the metrics script on github?
>> >> >> >> >> > (for reminder/information, the metrics script will give us a
>> set
>> >> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> >> > stats on participation and engagement across different
>> strata--
>> >> >> >> >> > basic
>> >> >> >> >> > stuff
>> >> >> >> >> > like users per course and school, etc. and evolving over
>> time.
>> >> our
>> >> >> >> >> > etherpad
>> >> >> >> >> > on desired metrics is here: http://pad.p2pu.org/metrics,
>> and
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> > queries in
>> >> >> >> >> > bold are what the initial script will focus on)
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > it is essentially a bunch of raw sql queries against the DB.
>> it
>> >> >> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> > involve any personal information, and only retrieves counts
>> >> >> >> >> > of aggregates.
>> >> >> >> >> > however, i know the DB is sensitive, and there is arguably
>> >> >> >> >> > security
>> >> >> >> >> > through
>> >> >> >> >> > obscurity in terms of DB structure. on the other hand, i
>> don;t
>> >> >> >> >> > think
>> >> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> > reveals anything sensitive, and anyone familiar with django
>> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> > know what
>> >> >> >> >> > our DB looks like by reading the lernanta code, and having
>> it on
>> >> >> >> >> > github will
>> >> >> >> >> > allow others to contribute.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > input?
>> >> >> >> >> > Jessy--http://jessykate.com
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
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