[p2pu-dev] metrics script - github?

[Jessy Kate Schingler]

Damnit! Will fix.

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On Jun 21, 2011 9:46 PM, "John Britton" <public at johndbritton.com> wrote:
> @Jessy - Did you name it "Degress-of-Freedom" on purpose, or did you mean
> Degrees-of-Freedom?
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> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good. -- Then you can from time to time download the latest
>> lernanta code and run the migrations on you copy of the db so you can
>> update the scripts (and update the setup of Degress-of-Freedom in
>> production on release days).
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Zuzel
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> > yeah-- but just to be clear, this isn't meant to be *part of*
lernanta--
>> > it's just a script to give us a sense of metrics regarding
participation.
>> > so for example, showing some tables, graphs, stats, etc.
>> > i don't see that as conceptually part of lernanta, unless you think we
>> > could/should integrate it into admin somehow? IMHO this is more effort
>> than
>> > it's worth, especially right now as we figure out what we want to
>> include,
>> > but that could be because i'd have to learn how to do that :). but i
>> would
>> > imagine (eventually!) something more like munin's output than a typical
>> > django admin interface, eg:
>> > http://oierud.name/bliki/munin-mysql.png
>> > anyhoo, in the meantime i've set up a repo here:
>> > https://github.com/p2pu/Degress-of-Freedom
>> > we can always merge if that's the direction we want to go!
>> > (as a side note-- is it possible to create a repo within an
organization
>> > without first creating one within your personal account and then
forking
>> it?
>> > seems a little silly but i couldnt find another way to do it).
>> >
>> >
>> > Jessy
>> > --
>> > http://jessykate.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:51 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If it will have its own front end then it makes sense to have another
>> >> repo. Any reason why you are not using the lernanta as frontend?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Zuzel
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >> > they are definitely wholly dependent on the DB schema, but other
than
>> >> > that
>> >> > not really related in terms of development. also it will end up
having
>> >> > it's
>> >> > own front end as well-- something simple, but seems like it would be
>> >> > clutter
>> >> > in the lernanta repo. i dunno, i think it probably makes more sense
to
>> >> > create a separate repo-- but am easy if you feel strongly!
>> >> >
>> >> > Jessy
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://jessykate.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:14 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If they are scripts (quite related to lernanta) maybe you could
>> submit
>> >> >> them to the lernanta repo (they could be in their own folder). If
we
>> >> >> update the db schema in parts that those scripts are using we could
>> >> >> update them at the same time.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Zuzel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > awesome, i'll start a repo.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jessy
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:53 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Yes, the structure of the database is public. It makes sense to
>> >> >> >> store
>> >> >> >> and maintain the script on github.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 19, 2011, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>> jessy at jessykate.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > thoughts about putting the metrics script on github?
>> >> >> >> > (for reminder/information, the metrics script will give us a
set
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > stats on participation and engagement across different
strata--
>> >> >> >> > basic
>> >> >> >> > stuff
>> >> >> >> > like users per course and school, etc. and evolving over time.
>> our
>> >> >> >> > etherpad
>> >> >> >> > on desired metrics is here: http://pad.p2pu.org/metrics, and
>> the
>> >> >> >> > queries in
>> >> >> >> > bold are what the initial script will focus on)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > it is essentially a bunch of raw sql queries against the DB.
it
>> >> >> >> > doesn't
>> >> >> >> > involve any personal information, and only retrieves counts
>> >> >> >> > of aggregates.
>> >> >> >> > however, i know the DB is sensitive, and there is arguably
>> >> >> >> > security
>> >> >> >> > through
>> >> >> >> > obscurity in terms of DB structure. on the other hand, i don;t
>> >> >> >> > think
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > reveals anything sensitive, and anyone familiar with django
>> would
>> >> >> >> > know what
>> >> >> >> > our DB looks like by reading the lernanta code, and having it
on
>> >> >> >> > github will
>> >> >> >> > allow others to contribute.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > input?
>> >> >> >> > Jessy--http://jessykate.com
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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