[p2pu-dev] etherpad upgrade question

Thu Jul 21 17:04:32 UTC 2011

The etherpad instance is running on a development machine? Is that machine
also where alpha is? Is it there because if it takes stuff down, it's not
taking the courses down? Why not just make it a VM so it's just going to
affect itself? Still uses up resources though.

Is there anything we can do to help convince OSUOSL to allow us a VM? Is
there another place to get VM?

If we go to an external service, won't we have to pay?

I agree with John in that I like to have a little control. Would be nice to
get the branding on it, make sure we have good support (it has good uptime),
etc.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also want to bring back here our plans of shooting down the p2pu-dev
> server (because of its costs) which will mainly affect the etherpad we
> are hosting there (qa.p2pu.org can be moved to the production server).
> Our attempts to get a virtual machine on OSUOSL to replace p2pu-dev
> have not being successful so far, so using an external dependency
> could be an option (if we use the interaction features they provide
> and keep moving the content we produce to a more stable and
> lightweight site that we can host).
>
> --
> Thanks,
>     Zuzel
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:26 AM, John Britton <public at johndbritton.com>
> wrote:
> > Convore is an external dependency that might go away, and I don't know if
> > they have a good export feature. Worth looking into, but personally would
> > prefer something we have a bit more control over.
> > --
> > contact info:
> > http://www.johndbritton.com
> > @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Alison Jean Cole
> > <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There's a P2PU group there with Jessy and Stian already in it:
> >> https://convore.com/p2pu/
> >>
> >> Should we try it out before/during/after the community call tomorrow?
> >>
> >> ALISON
> >> p2pu.org/en/alison/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ali:
> >>>
> >>> Could you set up a convore room/instance and invite a few people so we
> >>> can test as an alternative?
> >>>
> >>> I'm not stuck on etherpad - and the notifications are only audible (no
> >>> pop up windows) which isn't so useful if people leave their computers.
> >>>
> >>> And Joe offered to help with the etherpad server (forwarded his
> >>> message separately) so we can try both.
> >>>
> >>> P
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> >>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> >>> > as a side note, convore has come up a couple of times on this list--
> >>> > it's
> >>> > basically like IRC meets skype chat, with user notifications. you can
> >>> > create
> >>> > public and private groups, and have multiple topics within each
> group.
> >>> > topics are like IRC's chat rooms, except they get archived online so
> >>> > you can
> >>> > see what you missed, and users can set up notifications for new
> >>> > messages
> >>> > either immediately or in digest form.
> >>> > seems like a good use case for what philipp is talking about!
> >>> > Jessy
> >>> > --
> >>> > http://jessykate.com
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jessica Ledbetter
> >>> > <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I couldn't tell what version we're running by viewing the source.
> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:30 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Will need a volunteer to make that happen. I am buried in deadlines
> >>> >>> this summer and the first part of the fall.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Alison Jean Cole
> >>> >>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> > Excellent idea.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > ALISON
> >>> >>> > p2pu.org/en/alison/
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
> >>> >>> > <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> That sounds like a great idea :)
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Philipp Schmidt
> >>> >>> >> <philipp at p2pu.org>
> >>> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> (a) could we upgrade to a version of etherpad that has this
> >>> >>> >>> feature?
> >>> >>> >>> https://github.com/ether/pad/issues/177
> >>> >>> >>> (b) or turn it on if our version already supports.
> >>> >>> >>> (c) or someone point me to a public etherpad server that has
> the
> >>> >>> >>> feature
> >>> >>> >>> turned on ... which I could use.
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> WHY?
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> i am hatching a plan to use etherpad as our "hang-out space"
> for
> >>> >>> >>> everyone
> >>> >>> >>> working on P2PU. instead of lurking on IRC, we could log into a
> >>> >>> >>> shared
> >>> >>> >>> etherpad in the morning (respectively) - note down what we are
> >>> >>> >>> working on
> >>> >>> >>> for that day - and see who else is around to get quick feedback
> >>> >>> >>> or
> >>> >>> >>> discuss.
> >>> >>> >>> this will help to create a stronger sense of co-working ...
> >>> >>> >>> important
> >>> >>> >>> given
> >>> >>> >>> that we are all so mobile.
> >>> >>> >>> having a notification for new chat messages is an important
> >>> >>> >>> feature
> >>> >>> >>> for
> >>> >>> >>> that.
> >>> >>> >>> (thanks pippa for the inspiration for this!)
> >>> >>> >>> P
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> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> --
> >>> >>> >> Jessica Ledbetter
> >>> >>> >> http://jessicaledbetter.com
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
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> >>> >>
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