[p2pu-dev] Should we be recommending Profile tags as the main way to suggest course ideas?

Wed Jul 20 19:43:08 UTC 2011

>From the README of django-taggit-templatetags sounds like it is what
we are looking for.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
<jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> We'd looked at django-tagging and taggit did more what we wanted. We could
> do a cloud probably without needing to go to tagging and losing some of the
> functionality that taggit gives us.
>
> There's also https://github.com/feuervogel/django-taggit-templatetags
>
> No, I don't think we store when a tag was added to a person but could fire
> an activity? We store a little extra already on a Tag above the Taggit level
> since a person can have 3 types of tags. I guess it depends on what we hope
> to get from it. People recently tagged with X? Or maybe new tags [click and
> see the person/people with it]. Or even a chart showing tag popularity over
> time? Or is this "X has added Y to her interests" on her profile's activity
> stream?
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Zuzel VP <zuzel at p2pu.org> wrote:
>>
>> +1 for using a third party dependency for this.
>>
>> Hmm, maybe we need to change to django-tagging
>> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/405675/django-tag-cloud-plugin)
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>    Zuzel
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Wesley Pennock
>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tag cloud is good maybe implemented in Javascript with jQuery...
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>> > <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Alison: Yes, it's feasible. Just has the bare UI right now :)
>> >> Jessy: Recently added/popular on front ... If recently added, we could
>> >> make an activity like when someone creates a task for a course but that
>> >> might be spammy. Is this in its own box? Like a "tag cloud" style box?
>> >> We
>> >> have 3 types on a user, and 1 on a course.
>> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> we shoud show a list of popular/recently added interests on the front
>> >>> page/landing page somewhere?
>> >>> @jessica yeah, there are some good lists of english stop words we can
>> >>> use
>> >>> to get rid of that kind of cruft :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jessy
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://jessykate.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>> >>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +1 for auto suggest, if it's feasible - not to narrow folks' interest
>> >>>> but to broaden the chances that they'll connect with others.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ALISON
>> >>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>> >>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Social glue: +1 That's one of the reasons. I'd love to find all the
>> >>>>> other people interested in web stuff so I can follow on P2PU or add
>> >>>>> to G+ or
>> >>>>> whatnots. :)
>> >>>>> Jessy: Awesome. Let me know how it goes. I did notice quite a bit of
>> >>>>> wonk and have some ideas (maybe a blacklist of terms like "of"
>> >>>>> "the") for
>> >>>>> some folks' tags.
>> >>>>> Wesley: Metric is a measurement really. So like how many people have
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> certain tag could be a metric. It could then be expanded to show how
>> >>>>> many
>> >>>>> people have that tag and visited the site within the last week. We
>> >>>>> can use
>> >>>>> them to help us improve and see how we're doing as a system.
>> >>>>> We could do a 'related' table but think that that'd be way down the
>> >>>>> line if we did go that route. For example, "javascript" "php"
>> >>>>> "mysql" tags
>> >>>>> are all "web" but only "javascript" and "php" might be
>> >>>>> "programming."
>> >>>>> I've noticed quite a few folks put "programming" and that influenced
>> >>>>> me
>> >>>>> putting programming so I'm thinking of an auto-suggest which might
>> >>>>> help.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I get excited about things that help with finding stuff and linking
>> >>>>> us
>> >>>>> together so pardon if my emails on tagging get too long :)
>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>> >>>>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> In the fairy tale future, hopefully tags will serve as the social
>> >>>>>> glue
>> >>>>>> - they will give users the ability to suggest courses, find
>> >>>>>> collaborators,
>> >>>>>> invite guest experts, make friends, etc..
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ALISON
>> >>>>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> >>>>>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> when i do the next round of work on the metrics script, maybe i
>> >>>>>>> could
>> >>>>>>> have it scrape that field and do an auto-count of terms used.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jessy
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> http://jessykate.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Wesley Pennock
>> >>>>>>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Agreed maybe make similar tag connections? Not entirely sure how
>> >>>>>>>> that would work but I have high hopes it can be done. Jessica
>> >>>>>>>> what is a
>> >>>>>>>> metric by the way?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>> >>>>>>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> User tags aren't perfect and I'm hoping to tweak it a little. I
>> >>>>>>>>> have a long list in my head and some on the commit note too.
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, we're hoping that we can easily see who all wants X as a
>> >>>>>>>>> topic. It's not perfect though and I'm thinking of ways to make
>> >>>>>>>>> it better.
>> >>>>>>>>> For example, if one person puts "Javascript" but I want to see
>> >>>>>>>>> everyone
>> >>>>>>>>> wanting to learn "jQuery" maybe those Javascript people would be
>> >>>>>>>>> interested
>> >>>>>>>>> in it. Could just be as simple as "Find all people tagged with
>> >>>>>>>>> these terms:
>> >>>>>>>>> javascript jquery prototype node." Also, typos count so those
>> >>>>>>>>> looking for
>> >>>>>>>>> "Javscript" won't find "Javascript." I could do a "like" for
>> >>>>>>>>> suggestions and
>> >>>>>>>>> something like "did you mean?"
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I'm also hoping for metrics. I love metrics and will help
>> >>>>>>>>> how
>> >>>>>>>>> I can.
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I want to be able to subscribe to a tag and get notified
>> >>>>>>>>> when
>> >>>>>>>>> a course [1] is created with such.
>> >>>>>>>>> Courses will have organizer supplied tags in the next release
>> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> some of that code is already committed (though not in
>> >>>>>>>>> production).
>> >>>>>>>>> Some of this code is me scratching my own itch but that's one of
>> >>>>>>>>> the awesome things about open source ;) Patches/pull requests
>> >>>>>>>>> welcome!
>> >>>>>>>>> [1] Course, study group, workshop, etc. :)
>> >>>>>>>>> ~Jessica
>> >>>>>>>>> Volunteer Developer
>> >>>>>>>>> Lernanta/P2PU
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Wesley Pennock
>> >>>>>>>>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes Pippa we should. We could have school organizers look
>> >>>>>>>>>> through
>> >>>>>>>>>> all the users "want to learn more section" and using that
>> >>>>>>>>>> decide what should
>> >>>>>>>>>> taught next. And maybe create a graph of some sort out of this
>> >>>>>>>>>> data. These
>> >>>>>>>>>> are just some preliminary thoughts though. Also about the user
>> >>>>>>>>>> notification
>> >>>>>>>>>> of courses that match their tag, this is a brilliant idea and
>> >>>>>>>>>> should be
>> >>>>>>>>>> implemented immediately.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Pippa Buchanan
>> >>>>>>>>>> <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing the SoW FAQ information.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> One section I'd like to make sure we get right is "I'd like to
>> >>>>>>>>>>> suggest a course idea, but not necessarily organise it myself.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can I do
>> >>>>>>>>>>> that?"
>> >>>>>>>>>>> We're currently recommending Uservoice as the way to suggest a
>> >>>>>>>>>>> course idea. The problem is that potential P2PU users end up
>> >>>>>>>>>>> creating a
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Uservoice account instead of a P2PU account.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> As we've now started to use tags, should I start recommending
>> >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>> users that they create a profile and add relevant tags to the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Want to learn
>> >>>>>>>>>>> more about" section?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> How do we imagine that this  will end up being used? Will
>> >>>>>>>>>>> users
>> >>>>>>>>>>> with tags get notified when courses with matching tags are
>> >>>>>>>>>>> created?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> P*
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Wesley Pennock
>> >>>>>>>>>> Check Out The Techie School
>> >>>>>>>>>> http://techieschool.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>> Jessica Ledbetter
>> >>>>>>>>> http://jessicaledbetter.com
>> >>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> >>>>>>>> Wesley Pennock
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>> >> Jessica Ledbetter
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>> > Wesley Pennock
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