[p2pu-dev] Should we be recommending Profile tags as the main way to suggest course ideas?

Wed Jul 20 19:23:49 UTC 2011

We'd looked at django-tagging and taggit did more what we wanted. We could
do a cloud probably without needing to go to tagging and losing some of the
functionality that taggit gives us.

There's also https://github.com/feuervogel/django-taggit-templatetags

No, I don't think we store when a tag was added to a person but could fire
an activity? We store a little extra already on a Tag above the Taggit level
since a person can have 3 types of tags. I guess it depends on what we hope
to get from it. People recently tagged with X? Or maybe new tags [click and
see the person/people with it]. Or even a chart showing tag popularity over
time? Or is this "X has added Y to her interests" on her profile's activity
stream?

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Zuzel VP <zuzel at p2pu.org> wrote:

> +1 for using a third party dependency for this.
>
> Hmm, maybe we need to change to django-tagging
> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/405675/django-tag-cloud-plugin)
>
> --
> Thanks,
>    Zuzel
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Wesley Pennock
> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tag cloud is good maybe implemented in Javascript with jQuery...
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
> > <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Alison: Yes, it's feasible. Just has the bare UI right now :)
> >> Jessy: Recently added/popular on front ... If recently added, we could
> >> make an activity like when someone creates a task for a course but that
> >> might be spammy. Is this in its own box? Like a "tag cloud" style box?
> We
> >> have 3 types on a user, and 1 on a course.
> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> we shoud show a list of popular/recently added interests on the front
> >>> page/landing page somewhere?
> >>> @jessica yeah, there are some good lists of english stop words we can
> use
> >>> to get rid of that kind of cruft :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jessy
> >>> --
> >>> http://jessykate.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alison Jean Cole
> >>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for auto suggest, if it's feasible - not to narrow folks' interest
> >>>> but to broaden the chances that they'll connect with others.
> >>>>
> >>>> ALISON
> >>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
> >>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Social glue: +1 That's one of the reasons. I'd love to find all the
> >>>>> other people interested in web stuff so I can follow on P2PU or add
> to G+ or
> >>>>> whatnots. :)
> >>>>> Jessy: Awesome. Let me know how it goes. I did notice quite a bit of
> >>>>> wonk and have some ideas (maybe a blacklist of terms like "of" "the")
> for
> >>>>> some folks' tags.
> >>>>> Wesley: Metric is a measurement really. So like how many people have
> a
> >>>>> certain tag could be a metric. It could then be expanded to show how
> many
> >>>>> people have that tag and visited the site within the last week. We
> can use
> >>>>> them to help us improve and see how we're doing as a system.
> >>>>> We could do a 'related' table but think that that'd be way down the
> >>>>> line if we did go that route. For example, "javascript" "php" "mysql"
> tags
> >>>>> are all "web" but only "javascript" and "php" might be "programming."
> >>>>> I've noticed quite a few folks put "programming" and that influenced
> me
> >>>>> putting programming so I'm thinking of an auto-suggest which might
> help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I get excited about things that help with finding stuff and linking
> us
> >>>>> together so pardon if my emails on tagging get too long :)
> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Alison Jean Cole
> >>>>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the fairy tale future, hopefully tags will serve as the social
> glue
> >>>>>> - they will give users the ability to suggest courses, find
> collaborators,
> >>>>>> invite guest experts, make friends, etc..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ALISON
> >>>>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> >>>>>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> when i do the next round of work on the metrics script, maybe i
> could
> >>>>>>> have it scrape that field and do an auto-count of terms used.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jessy
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> http://jessykate.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Wesley Pennock
> >>>>>>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Agreed maybe make similar tag connections? Not entirely sure how
> >>>>>>>> that would work but I have high hopes it can be done. Jessica what
> is a
> >>>>>>>> metric by the way?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
> >>>>>>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> User tags aren't perfect and I'm hoping to tweak it a little. I
> >>>>>>>>> have a long list in my head and some on the commit note too.
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, we're hoping that we can easily see who all wants X as a
> >>>>>>>>> topic. It's not perfect though and I'm thinking of ways to make
> it better.
> >>>>>>>>> For example, if one person puts "Javascript" but I want to see
> everyone
> >>>>>>>>> wanting to learn "jQuery" maybe those Javascript people would be
> interested
> >>>>>>>>> in it. Could just be as simple as "Find all people tagged with
> these terms:
> >>>>>>>>> javascript jquery prototype node." Also, typos count so those
> looking for
> >>>>>>>>> "Javscript" won't find "Javascript." I could do a "like" for
> suggestions and
> >>>>>>>>> something like "did you mean?"
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I'm also hoping for metrics. I love metrics and will help
> how
> >>>>>>>>> I can.
> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I want to be able to subscribe to a tag and get notified
> when
> >>>>>>>>> a course [1] is created with such.
> >>>>>>>>> Courses will have organizer supplied tags in the next release and
> >>>>>>>>> some of that code is already committed (though not in
> production).
> >>>>>>>>> Some of this code is me scratching my own itch but that's one of
> >>>>>>>>> the awesome things about open source ;) Patches/pull requests
> welcome!
> >>>>>>>>> [1] Course, study group, workshop, etc. :)
> >>>>>>>>> ~Jessica
> >>>>>>>>> Volunteer Developer
> >>>>>>>>> Lernanta/P2PU
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Wesley Pennock
> >>>>>>>>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes Pippa we should. We could have school organizers look
> through
> >>>>>>>>>> all the users "want to learn more section" and using that decide
> what should
> >>>>>>>>>> taught next. And maybe create a graph of some sort out of this
> data. These
> >>>>>>>>>> are just some preliminary thoughts though. Also about the user
> notification
> >>>>>>>>>> of courses that match their tag, this is a brilliant idea and
> should be
> >>>>>>>>>> implemented immediately.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Pippa Buchanan
> >>>>>>>>>> <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing the SoW FAQ information.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> One section I'd like to make sure we get right is "I'd like to
> >>>>>>>>>>> suggest a course idea, but not necessarily organise it myself.
> Can I do
> >>>>>>>>>>> that?"
> >>>>>>>>>>> We're currently recommending Uservoice as the way to suggest a
> >>>>>>>>>>> course idea. The problem is that potential P2PU users end up
> creating a
> >>>>>>>>>>> Uservoice account instead of a P2PU account.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> As we've now started to use tags, should I start recommending
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> users that they create a profile and add relevant tags to the
> "Want to learn
> >>>>>>>>>>> more about" section?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> How do we imagine that this  will end up being used? Will users
> >>>>>>>>>>> with tags get notified when courses with matching tags are
> created?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> P*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>> Wesley Pennock
> >>>>>>>>>> Check Out The Techie School
> >>>>>>>>>> http://techieschool.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Jessica Ledbetter
> >>>>>>>>> http://jessicaledbetter.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>> Wesley Pennock
> >>>>>>>> Check Out The Techie School
> >>>>>>>> http://techieschool.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jessica Ledbetter
> >>>>> http://jessicaledbetter.com
> >>>>>
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> >> --
> >> Jessica Ledbetter
> >> http://jessicaledbetter.com
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> > Wesley Pennock
> > Check Out The Techie School
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