[p2pu-dev] Should we be recommending Profile tags as the main way to suggest course ideas?

Wed Jul 20 18:22:23 UTC 2011

+1 for using a third party dependency for this.

Hmm, maybe we need to change to django-tagging
(http://stackoverflow.com/questions/405675/django-tag-cloud-plugin)

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Thanks,
    Zuzel

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Wesley Pennock
<wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tag cloud is good maybe implemented in Javascript with jQuery...
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>>
>> Alison: Yes, it's feasible. Just has the bare UI right now :)
>> Jessy: Recently added/popular on front ... If recently added, we could
>> make an activity like when someone creates a task for a course but that
>> might be spammy. Is this in its own box? Like a "tag cloud" style box? We
>> have 3 types on a user, and 1 on a course.
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> we shoud show a list of popular/recently added interests on the front
>>> page/landing page somewhere?
>>> @jessica yeah, there are some good lists of english stop words we can use
>>> to get rid of that kind of cruft :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Jessy
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 for auto suggest, if it's feasible - not to narrow folks' interest
>>>> but to broaden the chances that they'll connect with others.
>>>>
>>>> ALISON
>>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Social glue: +1 That's one of the reasons. I'd love to find all the
>>>>> other people interested in web stuff so I can follow on P2PU or add to G+ or
>>>>> whatnots. :)
>>>>> Jessy: Awesome. Let me know how it goes. I did notice quite a bit of
>>>>> wonk and have some ideas (maybe a blacklist of terms like "of" "the") for
>>>>> some folks' tags.
>>>>> Wesley: Metric is a measurement really. So like how many people have a
>>>>> certain tag could be a metric. It could then be expanded to show how many
>>>>> people have that tag and visited the site within the last week. We can use
>>>>> them to help us improve and see how we're doing as a system.
>>>>> We could do a 'related' table but think that that'd be way down the
>>>>> line if we did go that route. For example, "javascript" "php" "mysql" tags
>>>>> are all "web" but only "javascript" and "php" might be "programming."
>>>>> I've noticed quite a few folks put "programming" and that influenced me
>>>>> putting programming so I'm thinking of an auto-suggest which might help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get excited about things that help with finding stuff and linking us
>>>>> together so pardon if my emails on tagging get too long :)
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>>>>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the fairy tale future, hopefully tags will serve as the social glue
>>>>>> - they will give users the ability to suggest courses, find collaborators,
>>>>>> invite guest experts, make friends, etc..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ALISON
>>>>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>>>>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when i do the next round of work on the metrics script, maybe i could
>>>>>>> have it scrape that field and do an auto-count of terms used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jessy
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://jessykate.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Wesley Pennock
>>>>>>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed maybe make similar tag connections? Not entirely sure how
>>>>>>>> that would work but I have high hopes it can be done. Jessica what is a
>>>>>>>> metric by the way?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>>>>>>>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> User tags aren't perfect and I'm hoping to tweak it a little. I
>>>>>>>>> have a long list in my head and some on the commit note too.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, we're hoping that we can easily see who all wants X as a
>>>>>>>>> topic. It's not perfect though and I'm thinking of ways to make it better.
>>>>>>>>> For example, if one person puts "Javascript" but I want to see everyone
>>>>>>>>> wanting to learn "jQuery" maybe those Javascript people would be interested
>>>>>>>>> in it. Could just be as simple as "Find all people tagged with these terms:
>>>>>>>>> javascript jquery prototype node." Also, typos count so those looking for
>>>>>>>>> "Javscript" won't find "Javascript." I could do a "like" for suggestions and
>>>>>>>>> something like "did you mean?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'm also hoping for metrics. I love metrics and will help how
>>>>>>>>> I can.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, I want to be able to subscribe to a tag and get notified when
>>>>>>>>> a course [1] is created with such.
>>>>>>>>> Courses will have organizer supplied tags in the next release and
>>>>>>>>> some of that code is already committed (though not in production).
>>>>>>>>> Some of this code is me scratching my own itch but that's one of
>>>>>>>>> the awesome things about open source ;) Patches/pull requests welcome!
>>>>>>>>> [1] Course, study group, workshop, etc. :)
>>>>>>>>> ~Jessica
>>>>>>>>> Volunteer Developer
>>>>>>>>> Lernanta/P2PU
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Wesley Pennock
>>>>>>>>> <wesleymarkpennock at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes Pippa we should. We could have school organizers look through
>>>>>>>>>> all the users "want to learn more section" and using that decide what should
>>>>>>>>>> taught next. And maybe create a graph of some sort out of this data. These
>>>>>>>>>> are just some preliminary thoughts though. Also about the user notification
>>>>>>>>>> of courses that match their tag, this is a brilliant idea and should be
>>>>>>>>>> implemented immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Pippa Buchanan
>>>>>>>>>> <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm reviewing the SoW FAQ information.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One section I'd like to make sure we get right is "I'd like to
>>>>>>>>>>> suggest a course idea, but not necessarily organise it myself. Can I do
>>>>>>>>>>> that?"
>>>>>>>>>>> We're currently recommending Uservoice as the way to suggest a
>>>>>>>>>>> course idea. The problem is that potential P2PU users end up creating a
>>>>>>>>>>> Uservoice account instead of a P2PU account.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As we've now started to use tags, should I start recommending to
>>>>>>>>>>> users that they create a profile and add relevant tags to the "Want to learn
>>>>>>>>>>> more about" section?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do we imagine that this  will end up being used? Will users
>>>>>>>>>>> with tags get notified when courses with matching tags are created?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P*
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> Wesley Pennock
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>>>>>>>>> http://jessicaledbetter.com
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