[p2pu-dev] filters on the wall

Thu Jul 7 23:10:32 UTC 2011

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, James Tatum <jtatum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would this be a good time to suggest that the external feeds just be
> removed altogether? I'm really unclear on the value of these when they
> aren't filtered for P2PU related activities, and the mechanism of how
> such filtering would work is also unclear to me. As a user, I don't
> understand how I'm supposed to use them.
>
>
Personally, I like them. When I login, I see what people are up to and it's
neat. I wouldn't mind filtering though to just get P2PU domain updates
because sometimes it *does* get to be too much especially if one has github
linked up. I pity my followers sometimes!

If we do stick with them, I think their issues break down as:
>
> 1. Explaining to a publisher (someone who adds a feed to their site)
> what to add and why - for instance, "don't add your Flickr account
> (unless you're in a photography group), but do add your blog feed that
> shows articles related to the topic you're studying"
> 2. Making it easier to filter articles, as a publisher and as a follower
> 3. External feeds in general I think need love, for instance the
> initial add and update mechanisms seem to produce bursts of updates -
> and perhaps something on the display side to filter them as well
>
> Yes, we have a bug report on that:
http://p2pu.lighthouseapp.com/projects/71002/tickets/61-flickr-sync-is-a-deluge

And I +1 :)

> If the purpose of feeds is, "I think soandso is an interesting person,
> let's see what they're up to outside P2PU," then whatever we implement
> for these will trend towards the functionality of something like
> FriendFeed or Google Buzz. Is there a use case for these that guides
> the conversation about them?
>
>
I think that's one of the purposes. Before we couldn't say "don't subscribe"
when we added an external link. Now we can so people are choosing to publish
activity to P2PU.

> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Suggested Default:
> >> * Messages from course organizer (in separate color?)
> >
> > An easy way to see just the messages from the organizer would be helpful.
> I
> > think we'd talked about allowing an organizer to have an "important
> message"
> > on the group's main page. So being able to filter just for organizer
> > messages would be fantastic.
> >
> >>
> >> * Messages from other participants
> >> * New tasks created
> >> * New participants
> >> Suggested Optional:
> >> * New comment to task created (in task) - I'm a little undecided if this
> >> one should be default
> >
> > I like seeing the activity personally which would be comments. It shows
> how
> > the course/group is "alive."
> >
> >>
> >> * External feeds (these are creating most of the noise I think)
> >
> > Yes. They are. And sometimes they're showing up multiple times. I think I
> > know why but haven't come up with a great solution to it.
> >
> >>
> >> * New follower
> >>
> >>>
> >>>    Can this decsion be made by the person who creates the group?
> >>
> >> I'll stick my head out and suggest that we do NOT give users the option
> to
> >> control this. I anticipate that this will cause a lot of discussion, but
> >> there is research on UX design that shows more options make users
> unhappy
> >> (and confused). Is there really a course where participants would not
> want
> >> to see messages from the organizers, other participants and task
> creation in
> >> the activity stream?
> >
> > I also agree that too many options cause confusion/unhappiness.
> >
> >>
> >> If we notice that users struggle with the defaults - then we adjust (or
> >> give more options).
> >>
> >>>
> >>>    But what events/activities do we choose to display?
> >>>
> >>>    Zuzel will send a mail to the dev list to get feedback, but will
> >>> need to implement something by Monday.
> >>> ===============================================================
> >>>
> >>> There are 4 different kinds of activities in the wall:
> >>>
> >>> * messages posted to the wall by organizers and participants (soon
> >>> threaded to allow discussions not related to tasks to happen inside a
> >>> group)
> >>> * activity related to tasks (creation of new tasks, non minor editions
> >>> to tasks, threaded comments around tasks)
> >>> * activity that is shared by the organizers from the external links
> >>> the group is subscribed to.
> >>> * activity related to new faces interested on the course (someone is
> >>> following the course)
> >>>
> >>> We have to decide which of this will be in by default on the wall, and
> >>> with can be seen or filtered for quickly access by clicking on
> >>> predefined filters (e.g. See activity related to [everything],
> >>> [messages], [tasks], [subscriptions], [people]).
> >>
> >> Filter options:
> >> [Messages from Organizer]
> >>
> >> [All messages]
> >> [New tasks]
> >> [Subscriptions]
> >>
> >
> > +1 to all this. Edits on tasks maybe but that's more helpful if someone
> > makes a "placeholder" task that is empty. I figure the organizer would
> then
> > post to the wall that the task is now ready for work.
> >
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>    Zuzel
> >
> > --
> > Jessica Ledbetter
> > http://jessicaledbetter.com
> >
> >
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