[p2pu-dev] functional design and roadmap (Re: UI commentary for new design)

Rebecca Kahn bekka.kahn at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 09:42:41 UTC 2011


With pleasure.
If you could just mark the sections that get added quite clearly, so I know
which is part of the ongoing tools and tasks project, and which is new
material (I am easily confused).

B

On 30 January 2011 21:07, Joe Corneli <holtzermann17 at gmail.com> wrote:

> To implement my suggestion a good first step would just be to collect
> a *list* of RSS feeds.  We could just add this to Bekka's pad if she's
> willing to have it included there :)
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Tinashe Ruswa <tpruswa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I  could use my two cents to pull in and work with Alison in creating a
> User
> > Experience UE on the current homepage and then also on the side work with
> > Becca on the task management.Seems to be a lot going on at the same time
> so
> > a lil bit of formal task assignment would go a long way  in terms of
> > organization.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Joe Corneli <holtzermann17 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Bekka's outline at http://pad.p2pu.org/tasks-and-tools and the
> >> function-mapping project do indeed seem related.
> >>
> >> I think a first easy milestone would be one a page full of widgets
> >> that aggregate all of the relevant RSS feeds from the various tools
> >> around the site and the related external web services.  Once we see
> >> this, we can think more about how they could be presented in a better
> >> way, or possibly streamlined (e.g. moving UserVoice stuff into OSQA),
> >> or expanded.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Philipp Schmidt <phi.schmidt at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Joe: there are a lot of great ideas here. what are the next steps
> >> > needed to move some of it forward?
> >> >
> >> > one idea would be to work with alison on improving the current
> >> > home-page. or to work with bekka on figuring out overall roadmap/task
> >> > management ...
> >> >
> >> > P
> >> >
> >> > On 28 January 2011 18:23, Joe Corneli <holtzermann17 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> Hi: For what it's worth, in the UK Meetup, Nadeem, Niels, and I
> >> >> realised that the homepage can (and perhaps should) serve as a map to
> >> >> how people can get involved with the site.  The design we're
> >> >> discussing in this thread *looks* awesome, but maybe doesn't take
> full
> >> >> account of the *functional* specification of the P2PU platform.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've expanded on the notes from the UK meetup here:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://pad.p2pu.org/roadmap
> >> >>
> >> >> The basic idea is that, at least to a new visitor, P2PU "is" a bunch
> >> >> of feeds.  Can we make it easy for people to find these feeds?  Can
> we
> >> >> get some understanding about what new features (new feeds) will be
> >> >> coming along in the future?  And when they might arrive?
> >> >>
> >> >> Plain text of the pad mentioned above is copied below for reference
> >> >> purposes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Joe
> >> >>
> >> >> Meeting: Joe, Nadeem, Niels in Milton Keynes, UK.  Notes:
> >> >> http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/35311045/P2PU-UK-Meetup-Jan-2011
> >> >>
> >> >>  -- That was my most recent point of contact with things P2PU.  We
> >> >> came up with something that I think is a nice little gem, which I'll
> >> >> recopy here.
> >> >>
> >> >> "How can I get involved today/right now?" :: "P2PU Features" -->
> rough
> >> >> spec of current platform or possible design for a homepage of sorts
> >> >>
> >> >> We have a reasonable picture of that.  We currently have less of a
> >> >> clue about the related question "How will things change/develop in
> the
> >> >> future?".
> >> >>
> >> >> Right now stuff:
> >> >>
> >> >> This *could* be used as
> >> >>
> >> >>        - By asking some questions (link/feed RSS from OSQA)
> >> >>        - By starting some courses (link/feed bla bla)
> >> >>        - Participate in some courses ...
> >> >>        - Write some code ...
> >> >>        - Do some research ...
> >> >>        - try to do something around governance? (to grow the
> >> >> organization)
> >> >>           - mailing lists
> >> >>           - community calls
> >> >>           - irc
> >> >>           - wiki pages about organisational practices (link/feed
> >> >> recent changes page(s))
> >> >>        - ... Roadmap <<< this is where we need to get some more
> >> >> clarity, so we're working on it on this page! (Eventually I could see
> >> >> this having its own RSS feed, e.g. as items are being crossed off or
> >> >> added into the roadmap)
> >> >>         :: P2PU "Future Features"-->Specify Lernata?
> >> >>
> >> >> Future stuff:
> >> >>
> >> >> With outstanding questions flagged up in color:
> >> >>
> >> >>            - org side:
> >> >>              - incorporation as a US-based 501(c)3 nonprofit
> >> >>                (how might this change things, what will it change?)
> >> >>            - dev side:
> >> >>              - switch from current platform to Lernata
> >> >>                 (when is this going to happen?)
> >> >>                 (what new features will Lernata support?)
> >> >>            - possible partnerships side:
> >> >>               - (what about the idea of creating a P2PU "namespace"
> >> >> on Wikiversity?)
> >> >>
> >> >> If no one here is ready/able to answer these questions, maybe what we
> >> >> need is some guidance to the people who can/will be able to answer
> >> >> them.  Tracing that sort of thing out will help clarify both the
> >> >> roadmap & how to work on the roadmap.
> >> >>
> >> >> Outstanding issues (this stuff still need to be "roadmappized"):
> >> >>
> >> >> Note, these are mostly focusing on development side:
> >> >>
> >> >>  * Pivotal tracker: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/213283
> >> >>  * Github issues: https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/issues (empty)
> >> >>  * Atrium Tracker: http://tracker.p2pu.org/
> >> >>  * ... ?
> >> >>
> >> >> Information from the wiki, taking a broader view:
> >> >>
> >> >>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/28694756/techsprint
> >> >>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31806705/BCNWebSitePlanning
> >> >>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31809404/BCNOffline
> >> >>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31854890/BCNFutureOfTheWebsite
> >> >>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31890551/BCNFirstImpression
> >> >>
> >> >> Likely requirements moving forward with the roadmap-creating and
> >> >> maintaining process:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. We need some sense of the priority of the issues.
> >> >>
> >> >>   - Perhaps the prioritisation could come in part from looking at
> >> >> OSQA/UserVoice.  Is P2PU getting a list of "feature requests"?
> >> >>   - Of course, there will be development-side priorities that users
> >> >> will not generally be aware of. It's good if users can become aware
> of
> >> >> major points, but can't ask them to know about everything.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.  We need some sense of the outcomes in terms of "features" (see
> >> >> above bullet list).
> >> >>
> >> >>   - for example, one of my current annoyances is the P2PU wiki (which
> >> >> I feel is not easy to use), and similarly the rich text editor that
> is
> >> >> used on the site for courses isn't much good, and the plain text
> >> >> version just supports HTML markup.  All of that could stand to be
> >> >> improved and might be "important" as a feature request
> >> >>
> >> >>   - HOWEVER, it doesn't necessarily get at more major issues about
> >> >> "direction" -- like, it's not really a "new feature".  Which could be
> >> >> OK.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  We need good questions and we need to know who to ask them to.
> >> >>
> >> >>   - See comment in "Future Stuff" section.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4.  We need to find a suitable format to extract "legacy" planning
> >> >> formats into...
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