[p2pu-dev] quick question: how many of you have used LDAP before? (opinions about how to migrate users from the drupal site to lernanta)

[Paul Osman]

On 02/08/2011 01:48 PM, Stian Håklev wrote:
> <mailto:shaklev at gmail.com>> wrote:
> But you can't log in to Google, Facebook, Yahoo etc with an open id
> issues anywhere else? Anyway, I am happy to support OpenID, don't get me
> wrong, but I don't know of a single person who uses it actively to log
> on to most of the services in their life (as opposed to Google logon or
> Facebook logon etc, which are very actively used and broadly supported,
> but which I suppose we might be ideologically opposed to).
>
> Stian

Google logins are OpenIDs. Facebook IDs are not.

Yes, you are right that a lot of people have opted to become identity 
providers, and not relying parties. The reasons for this are mostly 
political imo. You're also right that OpenID suffers a plethora of 
usability problems that make widespread adoption problematic (chief 
amongst which, imo, is that the average web user does not understand 
what a URL is, and how it could possibly relate to their identity).

We support OpenID on Drumbeat.org, but I don't realistically expect more 
than a small percentage of our users to take advantage of it. I'm 
interested in doing some work to try to change this in a future version 
of drumbeat.org (see: 
http://blog.eval.ca/2010/10/04/making-signups-easier-with-webfinger/ ).

-Paul


>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 13:39, Paul Osman <paul at mozillafoundation.org
> <mailto:paul at mozillafoundation.org>> wrote:
>
>     Will on the thread at large as well, but wanted to chime in to this
>     specifically:
>     comment
>     37 Signals stopped supporting OpenID because of usability and
>     support concerns. Their dropping it does not suggest it is waning...
>     they are a tiny service compared to Google, Facebook, Yahoo, AOL,
>     etc who all support OpenID in various capacities. They make a lot of
>     noise, but there are still 65000+ relying parties out there.
>
>     OpenID is secure. Implementations can be secure, but there are not
>     any problems with the actual protocol that I am aware of (and I
>     watch this space fairly closely).
>
>     -Paul
>
>
>     On 02/08/2011 01:21 PM, Stian Håklev wrote:
>
>         OpenID seems to be on the wane - some services have even removed
>         provision of it (37 Signals, they wrote about it here):
>         http://productblog.37signals.com/products/2011/01/well-be-retiring-our-support-of-openid-on-may-1.html
>
>         I've also read that it's not very secure.
>
>         Do you guys actually use OpenID on most of the sites you visit?
>         Would
>         most P2PU users do so?
>
>         Stian
>
>         On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 13:11, Jessica Ledbetter
>         <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com
>         <mailto:jessica at jessicaledbetter.com>
>         <mailto:jessica at jessicaledbetter.com
>         <mailto:jessica at jessicaledbetter.com>>> wrote:
>
>             On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:09 PM, John Britton
>         <public at johndbritton.com <mailto:public at johndbritton.com>
>         <mailto:public at johndbritton.com
>         <mailto:public at johndbritton.com>>> wrote:
>          > I'd really like to see us using
>          > OpenID.
>
>             +1
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