[p2pu-dev] Minutes of Community Call 11 August 2011

Rebecca Kahn bekka at p2pu.org
Thu Aug 11 16:04:38 UTC 2011


Hi Everyone

Here are the minutes of this week's call. Thanks t everyone who attended,
and welcome to all the newcomers - it was great having you there.
These notes, and the chat transcript, as well as the notes from previous
meetings can be found on the etherpad: http://pad.p2pu.org/community



   - Bringing the Schools working group back to life [Bekka]
   - User support plan [Alison/ John]
   - Badges within Web craft challenges [Erin] John will update below
   -  [Pippa, introducing Nadia]
   - webcraft update [John]


*Attendees*
Pippa
Gunner!!!
Alison
Jessica
Bekka
Nadia " choco canel" E.
Jamie C
Erin

*Report Backs (in beta ) - Project*

   - Assesment & Badges
   - Metrics
   - User Support
   - Webcraft


*Communication & Admin*
Getting ready to send this week's "Featured Courses" messages (all input
welcome)
Contratcing, admin and paperwork - new guru team

*Tech*

   - Lernanta Dev Workshop -
   http://blogs.p2pu.org/blog/2011/08/11/lernanta-dev-workshop-toronto/
   - Dev meeting - https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/wiki/Dev-Meetings-2011
   - P2D on P2PU metrics -
   http://lists.p2pu.org/pipermail/p2pu-dev/2011-August/001627.html


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*Standups - Individual*
Pippa

   - CYOA task - http://pad.p2pu.org/SoWChallengeCYOA


Jessica

   - Various meetings plus advancing on the professional development (pd)
   metrics: http://pad.p2pu.org/devsummer and
   http://lists.p2pu.org/pipermail/p2pu-dev/2011-August/001627.html


   - Because I'm addicted to coding on Lernanta, am working on other items
   that will hopefully make Monday's release


Erin

   - Meeting overload - preparations for the DML Competition (focused around
   badge/assessment systems!)


   - Working with design group to develop the assessment framework (from
   Hewlett grant)


   - On-ramping assessment specialist hire (starts September 1)


John

   - Working on Webcraft 101


   - New SoW landing page work


   - Creating first set of tasks


Zuzel

   - https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/wiki/Dev-Meetings-2011


   - Lernanta Dev Workshop last Saturday


   - Picking SSL certificate for our future https:// login page


*NOTES*

*Bringing the Schools working group back to life*
Do we want to bring it back to life?
Do we see it having value?
What would we want to use it for?

   -     A discussion space for people who are running schools to discuss
   best practice


   - A place for people to talk about how P2PU supports learners


   - to discuss what P2PU offers schools


   - to review school proposals - eg. school of fascism


   - or if there are financial / partnership deals

Alison: the model we have is perfect but shouldn't P2PU make it as easy as
possible for people to start a school, and run with it?

   - It became cumbersome because we had no idea what a school should look
   like/be


   - should staff take ownership of moving the process forward where the
   schools left off?


   - or should we try to re-invigorate the working group

Pippa: staff support is needed for schools in some respect

   -  some schools require greater support / financial partnerships - they
   may require a staff liason

John: I don't think schools should all need staff support to get off the
ground - the barriers to entry, for some, should be as low as possible.
"Self-service schools"
Others, which involve partnerships will require more staff suppor
Pippa:  what are the responsibilities of school "owners" in general?
reviewing courses, defining which course is in which school etc.
If you start a school (even self-serve?), what are you signing up for?

   - eg. supporting Ali in Orientation?


   - responsibility for your own promotion?

Jessica: Group tagging might help show where schools can form up too
*TASK: *Bekka: develop plan for self service schools - what are the
requirements that allow permissions into current technical barriers +1

*Ali & John's User support plan*
Right now we're lacking support in very important areas
Identified a few different areas:

   - How to get a question answered well


   - User support


   - Philosophical stuff


   - How to be a good peer learner

Recommend for user support: help.p2pu.org

   - includes content, videos (articles)


   - FAQ


   - public/private forum


   - chat

Looking into two platforms (assistly.com and tenderapp.com if anyone is
interested)
Trying to combine the idea of the old-skool orientation with the new idea of
the egalitarian open space with helping people start conversations and see
what works.
re: Philosophical / Peer Learning Support discussions
edupunksguide step by step

   -
   http://groups.google.com/group/p2pu-community/browse_thread/thread/e33c321b421eff05

How do we provide "student support" at P2PU?

   -
   http://groups.google.com/group/p2pu-community/browse_thread/thread/fb3da16973010707

Ali receiving 100s of help desk request

   - solutions - a catch all address for more support related requirements


*Badges within Web craft challenges*
Erin looking to get feedback on

*Short term school with gamification needs for youth in europe*

   - Answer to an issue in European policy circles (youth in transition)


   - Trying to devleop a new social contract for europe -


   - Rather than usual top-down policy devleopment process, better to
   examine what strategies are people already using to manage the transition


   - Idea is to develop a "School for Trailblazers"


   - age range - "youth" - those having difficulties getting into regular
   work / education


   - 18-35 yo (I still qualify for 'youth'!) (Me too!)


   - combination of school - learn skills from other trailblazers, gathering
   stories and anecdotes from those working / living collaborative lifestyles,
   enabling democratic participation


   - story gathering - what were their learning experiences that made them
   resilient


   - school / game / social network - social network with gaming
   functionality that supports people learning


   - obvious crossover with school of social innovation:
   http://p2pu.org/en/schools/school-of-social-innovation/


   - social innovation


   - democratic participation


   - Technical Requirements


   - gaming and motivational dynamics missing


   - narrative framework support (pages?)


   - collaborative document drafting


   - TIMING


   - yesterday - :-)


   - project approved


   - Nadia driving - need to be running and working for about 6 months (at
   least) by May


   - policy recomendation in May 2012 (major output of the youth
   participants)


   - Sent to European Council


   - Zuzel - school support - organisation


   - development - need more features implemented by project start


   - email John, Zuzel, Philipp with requirements for technology


*Webcraft & Badges update *

   - John drafted the following document:  http://pad.p2pu.org/webcraft


   - Reflecting on the lessons learnt in the past


   - Focus going forward is on what was known as "Webmaking 101" which will
   allow people to built their own web portfolios.


   - Learning tasks can run concurrently or independently to a certain
   extent.


   - Tasks teach skills, have clear completion points, and have an end
   product which is different from every person who takes on the task.


   - These will be grouped in a collection that is cool to look through.


   - People can mentor on that task voluntarily, and many people can mentor


   - As tasks are completed, outputs will be documented and made visible


   - Webcraft Presentation


   - Give a clear idea, and a call to action: "learn web devleopment,
   certified by mozilla, sign up to Webmaking 101


   - As people get an idea of what a good task is, we can point to them and
   encourage people to develop more advanced tasks within webcraft


   - WRT Badges: there are a lot of badge-type moments in this scenario.
   Maybe after 10 tasks, you get your first badge.


   - Design gurus have been brought on to help design assessment models  -
   how do we build the webmaking 101 in with the work that this group is doing


   -  http://pad.p2pu.org/badge-integration


   - Erin: this is a great model, once we know how it works, and can pull in
   content experts, the potential is to make really robust assessment. Yay!


   - One of the objectives is that an infinite number of people should be
   able to do these tasks


   - Once some of the tasks are ready, and people are doing them we can
   think about how best to manage the social interaction aspect.


   - John, Erin, and all the gurus will speak and report back. + jamie? Yes,
   and Jamie!


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