[p2pu-dev] Minutes From This Week's Community Call

[Rebecca Kahn]

Hi all

Here are the notes from this week's community call. All the notes, plus the
chat transcript can be found on the etherpad (http://pad.p2pu.org/community)
Thanks to everyone who joined us.

Best
Bekka


*Agenda*


   - Question: should we do short weekly updates on core areas of P2PU
   (tech, admin, badges, etc.)
   - Badges / assessment update [Erin]
   - Help Desk revamp [Alison]
   - Etherpad notifications [Philipp]
   - Bringing the Schools working group back to life [Bekka - Next week]
   - Daily coworking space - tool review and selection [Philipp - Next week]
   - Berlin Workshop? [Pippa]


*Attendees*

   - Alison
   - Jessica
   - Pippa
   - Bekka
   - Philipp
   - John
   - Erin


*Stand Ups*

*Jessica*

   - working on PD assessment mockup (have feedback that needs to be
   incorporated) and sending out to p2pu-dev soon


   - attended various meetings


   - Erin sent out some more about badge integration: (0.1):
   http://pad.p2pu.org/badge-integration that we'll be getting going on


Alison

   - help desk


   - new groups & courses


   - reaching out to local p2p groups


*Bekka*

   - Contract rewrites


   - General Communications


   - General admin


*Pippa*
tasks analysis for SoW

John

   - Interviewes for UX Designer


   - Interviewes for Web Challege Designer


   - Following up with OSUOSL re: killing dev machine


Zuzel

   - Read notes from the last dev meeting on
   https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/wiki/Dev-Meetings-2011


   - Got Erin's update on badges and have to give feedback --
   http://pad.p2pu.org/badge-integration


   - Few days away from this Saturday's dev workshop at Toronto


   - Waiting for reply from Philipp about the wrokflow around the
   Contributor agreeement he sent  -- probably going to share with
   developers soon (can you make a proposal how to do this - haven't checked
   email yet ... ) can i send the proposal to the list with the
agreement?sure!ok, will do.
   probably good to mention that we used the form from Free Software Foundation
   and that they do this as well - so we don't look like evil corporate types


Philipp

   - Meetings / discussions about financial independence (revenue
   generation)


   - Major admin - contract template done (for consultants); finalizing
   contracts for john, assessment experts, assessment specialist; contributor
   agreement for software developers; bank account


   - Partnership development - meetings around school of Ed (professional
   development for teachers)


*Notes*

*Philipp: Question: should we do short weekly updates on core areas of P2PU
(tech, admin, badges, etc.)?*

   - As the community gets bigger, and more people are working on more
   stuff, it gets harder to keep up with what people are doing, particualrly
   when there is some overlap (SoW, metrics, badges, evaluation etc)


   - Many parallel conversations going on, how do we avoid these, and keep
   everyone in the loop?


   - More calls may not be a solution


   - As well as stand-ups, would it be helpful to have report backs in terms
   of 3 main areas from the people who are leading that work?


   - Suggestion: that we keep the first 15 minutes to the report backs we
   can avoid the call feeling like a "staff meeting" and people feeling
   excluded


   - Question: Would this be in addition to the stand ups (which are more
   about what individuals are up to)?


   - Another mechanism would be that the people who are in charge of the
   "working groups" do the report backs, but it's more about the working
   group/areas than the individuals


   - (John question): What are the topics we'll have and who is on each one?


   - Tech [Zuzel]


   - Communication & Admin [Bekka]


   - Marketing/Communication


   - Assesment & Badges [Erin]


   - Metrics [John] (Pippa: community  - it would be great to hear metrics /
   new signup numbers? not sure if it needs a report back though - maybe just a
   listing in the pad)


   - Basically any area where people are "employed" to do stuff and/or their
   is an active working group?


*Help Desk revamp [Alison]*

   - At the moment the Help Desk is a kind of community handbook with lots
   of tutorials


   - Many courses are made every day, not all are legit and very few of
   those use the handbook or sign up to it


   - That means they can't get any help


   - Is there a way to get people subscribed to the handbook so they can get
   the help they need?


   - Yes - if the creator uses the "course" setting for their group


   - Recommend using non-moderated signup for the help desk


   - Can people who join P2PU automatically be subscribed to the help desk?
   Or can it be an open space, that people don't have to "join"?


   - This might be a problem for notificaitons from the help desk


   - *John Britton:* that's not really the right way to do this: the need
   here is to get the helpdesk out of a course


   - John and Ali are going to discuss this in the coming week and will
   report back at the next meeting


   - P2PU.org is not built as a help site, we have different objectives, so
   we need to consider this when we think about building features


   - People are not asking for help, and we're not sure why


   - Philipp: having a "course" on how to build a P2PU course is the kind of
   material we should have on our site:
   http://p2pu.org/en/groups/p2pu-help-desk/content/how-to-start-a-study-group-on-p2pu/


   - Having a badge that reflects the ability of an organiser to build
   different types of courses might be one way of signposting.


   - I see this as a couple of courses that are more orientation-like:


   - eg. How to translate an OER course to a peer-learning format


   - how to create and manage an open study group


   - Peer Instructional Design - ADDIE for anyone


   - Facilitating online groups and meetings


   - Writing great learning materials and tasks


   - John Britton: does anyone love having helpdesk in a 'course' or was
   that mostly just because we had the ability to that?


   - It was the best place to have it when we started


   - historically it was the orientation, it was a space to learn how to run
   a group, using the platform.


   - We need to differentiate between having a help desk (community, q&a,
   etc.) and a set of courses (setting up a P2PU course, facilitating a
   study group, etc.)


   - Uservoice, qa.p2pu.org -- do they work?


   - Too many services in one place right now - need to separate organiser
   support spaces, OSQA,


   - TODO: John/Ali to go away and come back with a plan


*Badges Update*

   - We have identified the learning and assessment specialists


   - (Chloe, who knows about games, web dev, assessment etc via Quest to
   Learn) starts Sept 1


   - 3 assessment gurus who will join a "design group"


   - They will create and write the assessment framework paper, including
   the theory, which we need to provide as part of the Hewlett grant


   - This will then feed right into the SoW assessment and badges schemes


   - Badge pilot was put on hold (see meeting notes a few weeks ago) and
   decided to focus on integrating badges into Lernanta:
   http://pad.p2pu.org/badge-integration


   - Right now the next phase is working through tasks and badges as they
   align in the Web Making 101 course.


   - badges tied into task model in course design -> assessments linked to
   badges


   - For assessors: they can view the submitted course, say that theya re
   ready to asses, and then the system gives them a rubric which they can use
   as a checklist of what has been done or not, and comment and the
   participants will be able to see what has and hasn't been "achieved"


   - Moving towards a rating model (1-4), rather than straight "yes" or
   "no".


   - Looking at having some peer assessment and some guru assessment for
   different level tasks. ha


   - Some badges might be tied to levels of involvement, using site
   metrics.


   - Want badges to be available to be plugged into the open badges and link
   back to the evidence.


   - Philipp:


   - This would be a a good example of the kind of report back we discussed
   earlier in the meeting.


   - Zuzel:


   - We use the same word "badges" for many things  - this gets a bit
   confusing, maybe we should define vocabulary more clearly?


   - We want to create a new role in the system that is not connected to
   courses or schools, so how do we manage access and permissions, becuase some
   people will need access to some levels.


   - Make them badge admins?


*Etherpad notifications *

   - Philipp takes the blame for this - so we're going to look into taking
   them off


   - Philipp is happy to ask Joe to help us turn them off


   - Hacks can be done, and volunteers can push the development


*Real time communication*

   - So the idea was it would be great if p2pu staff were available on IM,
   sometimes there are times that it would be useful to just chat on IM. I know
   we're all in timezones so that's fine, but right now I just want to chat
   with Ali and setup a meeting. I know she's online, but I don't see her
   anywhere.


   - login to gtalk with @p2pu emails so it does not get merged with
   personal IM yes!


   - Could we get a tutorial on how to make use of @p2pu.org accounts?
   Useful for shared calendaring as well. And chat ...


   - I'm available now, I can set everyone up... (John)


   - Is @p2pu.org a google domain thing? yes alright, cool with me. I don't
   have a @p2pu acct but can share my personal im :)


   - John can help set up a seperate domain so people don't get bombarded
   and only P2PU people can see each other.


*Berlin Workshop? **V**enue idea*

   - Supermarkt  Brunnenstraße 64, 13355 Berlin (between U8 stop Bernauer
   Straße and Voltastraße).


   - hosting my workshop end of August, good space for breakouts etc. Can
   speak to Ela and find out her prices for 3 days?


   - Yes please, np
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