[p2pu-dev] Idea: Intelligent study group momentum machine

Thu Apr 14 17:25:01 UTC 2011

I'll help, of course, though I think there are a few tasks to make up the
functionality already in Lighthouse. Some might just be adding to what's
already here like adding a new "proposed" status (if that's what's agreed
on) and some are already in the works like tagging groups (
http://p2pu.lighthouseapp.com/projects/71002/tickets/111-provide-tags-functionality
) and
the "help establish" sounds like the "I can help co-admin" task out there.

<plug>
If folks are interested in developing on this and not sure where to start or
want to collaborate, feel free to join the study group
http://new.p2pu.org/en-US/groups/introduction-to-contributing-to-lernata/  One
of the ideas was having a group project or pair projects. We can team up
people with their strengths too like if someone isn't so strong on Python
but rocks the house with frontend technologies, then there's a job for you
:)

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We could have cron jobs that ... now I don't remember the terminology but it
was something about campaigns? Like "Haven't seen you in 2 weeks" that could
be reused for "What's the next chapter" stuff. Maybe s/script/reminder/? Or
that other term that I can't remember.  :)

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are a lot of great ideas here. To bring this forward, it would be
> great to have more people contribute to the code - Zuzel won't be able to do
> all this by herself (and she is of course focused right now on getting the
> really key elements really smooth and functional) - not only code, but also
> mockups, user stories, etc.
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> Stian
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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 16:49, Sean Suggs <ssuggs at digitalfunction.com>wrote:
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>> Sorry, “scripting” apparently struck a nerve LOL… ill need to see a
>>  therapist about my anti-scripting issues
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>> Feels like multiple awesome ideas happening at the same time…
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>> course auto-suggest “participation” by connecting user profile attributes
>> with course attributes and
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>> course auto-suggest “organizer” by connecting user profile attributes with
>> other user profiles attributes where courses are automatically created and
>> could, for the most part, run themselves with automated check-ins.
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>> *From:* p2pu-dev-bounces at lists.p2pu.org [mailto:
>> p2pu-dev-bounces at lists.p2pu.org] *On Behalf Of *Jessy Kate Schingler
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:05 AM
>> *To:* P2PU Technical Development
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>> *Subject:* Re: [p2pu-dev] Idea: Intelligent study group momentum machine
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>> yeah, i think to some the term would hold explicit appeal. but can TOTALLY
>> see how it would freak other peoples' shit out :) so +1 for branding it
>> appropriately and for diverse audiences.
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Scripting is an academic term for people who would like to look into what
>> kind of research and thinking already exists around this - I'm not
>> suggesting that we use that word for P2PU. (I'm not really suggesting
>> anything at all, just thinking aloud :))... I don't see it as disconnected
>> and anti-social at all though, it would enable social groups to do courses
>> together _without_ any course organizer.
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>> Stian
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02, Sean Suggs <ssuggs at digitalfunction.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Might be a good idea to stay away from language like “scripting your
>> course” it’s very disconnected and anti-social… perhaps this really cool
>> idea would be better wrapped into a scheduling mechanism with organizers
>> creating custom *“alerts”* to go along with their syllabuses
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>> *From:* p2pu-dev-bounces at lists.p2pu.org [mailto:
>> p2pu-dev-bounces at lists.p2pu.org] *On Behalf Of *Stian Håklev
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:42 AM
>> *To:* P2PU Technical Development
>> *Cc:* Pippa Buchanan
>> *Subject:* Re: [p2pu-dev] Idea: Intelligent study group momentum machine
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>> This would be pretty cool! There is a huge literature in the
>> computer-supported collaborative learning literature (my academic field) on
>> "scripting" - basically automated little prompts or interventions that can
>> help move a group collaboration forwards. I think a stand-up script, or a
>> "pre-packaged" course that has some automatic prompts built into it - once
>> you start "running it", every week it will prompt people to do something
>> etc, is a pretty cool idea! We hadn't planned to discuss scripting in the
>> CSCL course, but maybe we'll include it. (And there will be more courses
>> that are more specific, the literature is huge, and very relevant to
>> everything P2PU is doing!)
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>> Stian
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:25, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com>
>> wrote:
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>> on the momentum front i also imagine something like the automated
>> bi-weekly standup script could be applied (conceptually) to groups that
>> wanted to use it. ie, check a box [ ] i would like a script to run my
>> course. :)
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>> eg. for, say, a reading group-- you could have it set up to email everyone
>> every two weeks saying, "so? how was the next chapter?".
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Pippa Buchanan <
>> Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So, linking user tags with study group tags?
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>> Neat :-)
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>> On 14 April 2011 16:41, Jessica Ledbetter <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Wasn't there an idea of adding "interest" or "areas of expertise" to our
>> profiles? So, not only could you say "*20 study groups have been
>> proposed. Can you help any of them become a reality?" *but also* "20
>> study groups have been proposed. 10 of them are about HTML and you <3 HTML.
>> Share the <3 with others that feel the same way by creating the group." *And
>> then that "it's easy, here's how" stuff.
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Pippa Buchanan <
>> Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> @Stian Just bouncing off your original idea :-)  I think this may also
>> help traditional courses, but will allow those organisers to gauge interest
>> and engage with participants from an earlier stage of development.
>>
>> @Jessica yeah, it should encourage social cohesion from the beginning.
>> Often I think that what prevents people from participating is not being sure
>> if their learning idea is popular enough, or not knowing enough as an
>> individual to get started.
>> I like the idea of "proposed" as a status
>> *
>> 20 study groups have been proposed. Can you help any of them become a
>> reality?*
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>> On 14 April 2011 16:24, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I think this is a great idea. I still think there is a place for more
>> traditionally organized courses, but I think this would be a great
>> compliment. It could be setting up a study group around a course that has
>> already run, around a Saylor or MIT Scholar (both have fairly complete
>> resources that are all open) course, around a book that is openly available
>> etc.
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>> Stian
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:11, Jessica Ledbetter <
>> jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
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>> Awesome idea. Reminds me of meetup too where you can sign up for interests
>> and if a new group forms, you're told about it. But to say that you'll
>> create the group if there are others interested is also great.
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>> So, maybe this is a new status? "proposed" vs "draft"? Still using the
>> study group model but adding a little extra something something to it?
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>> I really like this :)
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> +1 Stian's idea about an intelligent way for study group momentum to be
>> built into the platform. It should be like UserVoice Course Suggestions, but
>> built into Lernanta. (it's a module which could also be useful for Batacuda
>> and drumbeat too). Uservoice obviously gathers interest but its hard to take
>> that interest automatically into p2pu.
>>
>> How about something like this
>>
>> Maria Von Trapp wants to learn: *Yodelling 101*, but is unsure about
>> whether people want to learn with her. (It's yodelling, so she may have a
>> point)
>>
>> "if 5 other people promise to join my study group for Yodelling 101 I'll
>> commit to creating it, finding the first resources and setting up a basic
>> task. I'd love some co-admins to help me out!"
>>
>> Follow: *I want to hear about this study group when it is established.*
>> Participate: *I want to learn Yodelling 101 too!*
>> Participate and Help Establish: *I want to help develop this Yodelling
>> 101 study group!* If 5 other people promise to  sign up for this study
>> group I commit to helping Maria Von Trapp establish it.
>> *
>> *Time passes...
>>
>> 5 people want to participate, 2 of them (Sally and Peter) wanted to help
>> out*
>>
>> *Maria Von Trapp, Sally and Peter are emailed:
>> *
>> Hi *Maria Von Trapp*, it's P2PU here. 21 days ago you commited to setting
>> up a study group for Yodelling 101 if 5 other people promised to
>> participate. You're in luck!
>>
>> Not only did 5 people sign-up, two other users wanted to help you
>> establish the Study Group.  Say hi to Sally and Peter now.
>>
>> We've created the Yodelling 101 study group for you. Getting a study
>> group setup is as easy as Do, Re, Mi! You can find help here and can
>> message your co-admins here.
>>
>> We're looking forward to hearing about your progress!
>>
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