[p2pu-dev] Idea: Intelligent study group momentum machine

Jessy Kate Schingler jessy at jessykate.com
Thu Apr 14 16:05:15 UTC 2011


yeah, i think to some the term would hold explicit appeal. but can TOTALLY
see how it would freak other peoples' shit out :) so +1 for branding it
appropriately and for diverse audiences.

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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:

> Scripting is an academic term for people who would like to look into what
> kind of research and thinking already exists around this - I'm not
> suggesting that we use that word for P2PU. (I'm not really suggesting
> anything at all, just thinking aloud :))... I don't see it as disconnected
> and anti-social at all though, it would enable social groups to do courses
> together _without_ any course organizer.
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> Stian
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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:02, Sean Suggs <ssuggs at digitalfunction.com>wrote:
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>> Might be a good idea to stay away from language like “scripting your
>> course” it’s very disconnected and anti-social… perhaps this really cool
>> idea would be better wrapped into a scheduling mechanism with organizers
>> creating custom *“alerts”* to go along with their syllabuses
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>> *From:* p2pu-dev-bounces at lists.p2pu.org [mailto:
>> p2pu-dev-bounces at lists.p2pu.org] *On Behalf Of *Stian Håklev
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2011 10:42 AM
>> *To:* P2PU Technical Development
>> *Cc:* Pippa Buchanan
>> *Subject:* Re: [p2pu-dev] Idea: Intelligent study group momentum machine
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>> This would be pretty cool! There is a huge literature in the
>> computer-supported collaborative learning literature (my academic field) on
>> "scripting" - basically automated little prompts or interventions that can
>> help move a group collaboration forwards. I think a stand-up script, or a
>> "pre-packaged" course that has some automatic prompts built into it - once
>> you start "running it", every week it will prompt people to do something
>> etc, is a pretty cool idea! We hadn't planned to discuss scripting in the
>> CSCL course, but maybe we'll include it. (And there will be more courses
>> that are more specific, the literature is huge, and very relevant to
>> everything P2PU is doing!)
>>
>> Stian
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:25, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com>
>> wrote:
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>> on the momentum front i also imagine something like the automated
>> bi-weekly standup script could be applied (conceptually) to groups that
>> wanted to use it. ie, check a box [ ] i would like a script to run my
>> course. :)
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>> eg. for, say, a reading group-- you could have it set up to email everyone
>> every two weeks saying, "so? how was the next chapter?".
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Pippa Buchanan <
>> Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So, linking user tags with study group tags?
>>
>> Neat :-)
>>
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>> On 14 April 2011 16:41, Jessica Ledbetter <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Wasn't there an idea of adding "interest" or "areas of expertise" to our
>> profiles? So, not only could you say "*20 study groups have been
>> proposed. Can you help any of them become a reality?" *but also* "20
>> study groups have been proposed. 10 of them are about HTML and you <3 HTML.
>> Share the <3 with others that feel the same way by creating the group." *And
>> then that "it's easy, here's how" stuff.
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Pippa Buchanan <
>> Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> @Stian Just bouncing off your original idea :-)  I think this may also
>> help traditional courses, but will allow those organisers to gauge interest
>> and engage with participants from an earlier stage of development.
>>
>> @Jessica yeah, it should encourage social cohesion from the beginning.
>> Often I think that what prevents people from participating is not being sure
>> if their learning idea is popular enough, or not knowing enough as an
>> individual to get started.
>> I like the idea of "proposed" as a status
>> *
>> 20 study groups have been proposed. Can you help any of them become a
>> reality?*
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>> On 14 April 2011 16:24, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I think this is a great idea. I still think there is a place for more
>> traditionally organized courses, but I think this would be a great
>> compliment. It could be setting up a study group around a course that has
>> already run, around a Saylor or MIT Scholar (both have fairly complete
>> resources that are all open) course, around a book that is openly available
>> etc.
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>> Stian
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:11, Jessica Ledbetter <
>> jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
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>> Awesome idea. Reminds me of meetup too where you can sign up for interests
>> and if a new group forms, you're told about it. But to say that you'll
>> create the group if there are others interested is also great.
>>
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>> So, maybe this is a new status? "proposed" vs "draft"? Still using the
>> study group model but adding a little extra something something to it?
>>
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>> I really like this :)
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>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> +1 Stian's idea about an intelligent way for study group momentum to be
>> built into the platform. It should be like UserVoice Course Suggestions, but
>> built into Lernanta. (it's a module which could also be useful for Batacuda
>> and drumbeat too). Uservoice obviously gathers interest but its hard to take
>> that interest automatically into p2pu.
>>
>> How about something like this
>>
>> Maria Von Trapp wants to learn: *Yodelling 101*, but is unsure about
>> whether people want to learn with her. (It's yodelling, so she may have a
>> point)
>>
>> "if 5 other people promise to join my study group for Yodelling 101 I'll
>> commit to creating it, finding the first resources and setting up a basic
>> task. I'd love some co-admins to help me out!"
>>
>> Follow: *I want to hear about this study group when it is established.*
>> Participate: *I want to learn Yodelling 101 too!*
>> Participate and Help Establish: *I want to help develop this Yodelling
>> 101 study group!* If 5 other people promise to  sign up for this study
>> group I commit to helping Maria Von Trapp establish it.
>> *
>> *Time passes...
>>
>> 5 people want to participate, 2 of them (Sally and Peter) wanted to help
>> out*
>>
>> *Maria Von Trapp, Sally and Peter are emailed:
>> *
>> Hi *Maria Von Trapp*, it's P2PU here. 21 days ago you commited to setting
>> up a study group for Yodelling 101 if 5 other people promised to
>> participate. You're in luck!
>>
>> Not only did 5 people sign-up, two other users wanted to help you
>> establish the Study Group.  Say hi to Sally and Peter now.
>>
>> We've created the Yodelling 101 study group for you. Getting a study
>> group setup is as easy as Do, Re, Mi! You can find help here and can
>> message your co-admins here.
>>
>> We're looking forward to hearing about your progress!
>>
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