[p2pu-webcraft] [p2pu-schools] Re: Please review: default decline message for non Webcraft courses and groups

Thu Jun 23 20:45:11 UTC 2011

oh, haha, this was a response to the wrong thread (they're similar!), so...
er, probably mostly not relevant? :p

Jessy
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
<jessy at jessykate.com>wrote:

> we could incorporate it as a notification option but i think we should
> create a more legit notification procedure first :). (right now it's
> literally just a cron job which scrapes the html content of the study groups
> listing page, and does a diff with the courses that existed the previous
> day. https://gist.github.com/977559)
>
> i didn't even know about the "new course announcement list"! what is going
> to it now then, if there are no other notifications? :)
>
> Jessy
> --
> http://jessykate.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Jessica Ledbetter <
> jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>
>> We could send it to the new course announce list then maybe?
>>
>> That way we're not updating the hardcoded admin email address.
>>
>> Or we could roll it into the platform and let users select "new courses
>> created" announcement in the user profile area. Was going to move that
>> direction with "email me with new people with these tags or new courses with
>> these tags" type thing. Maybe.
>>
>> It could be after the stopgap of cc'ing hardcoded peeps.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org>wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for removal of school association in course creation (or making it
>>> much more obvious, the whole schools thing really confused the
>>> shuttleworth users)
>>>
>>> +1 for avoiding to deny users to do anything
>>>
>>> +1 for course creation notifications to go to pippa and anyone else
>>> who wants them as well (maybe any user on the site can choose to
>>> receive them?)
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 June 2011 23:12, Alison Jean Cole <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > If school organizers would feel overwhelmed by this, I am happy to
>>> direct
>>> > all new courses to appropriate schools. I would much prefer to do this
>>> +
>>> > remove the school option from the course creation page, than deny folks
>>> who
>>> > are prompted to pick a school, but not explained clearly its role. It
>>> > creates unnecesary negative feedback.
>>> >
>>> > ALISON
>>> > p2pu.org/en/alison/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jessica Ledbetter
>>> > <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:54 PM, John Britton <
>>> public at johndbritton.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I totally agree Ali, declining people is bad. They should be invited
>>> in
>>> >>> to Schools
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> +1
>>> >> I think admin at p2pu is emailed when new courses are created. Can maybe
>>> cc
>>> >> school organizers (if they're not on the admin list already) for a
>>> stopgap
>>> >> till we get tags.
>>> >> Also a group organizer can ping the school in question in case her/his
>>> >> group is missed. Then it'd be handy to have a version of this email
>>> >> probably.
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Alison Jean Cole
>>> >>> <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Agree with Jessy's feedback.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> My hope is that denial will be a temporary process until we have a
>>> good
>>> >>>> tagging system in place.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Schools could then review courses tagged with their topics and
>>> invite
>>> >>>> them to join the school. I would remove "select a school" from the
>>> course
>>> >>>> creation process and replace it with tags. That way we avoid having
>>> a
>>> >>>> negative system in place altogether.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ALISON
>>> >>>> p2pu.org/en/alison/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>> >>>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> i think it was for p2pu as a whole. i do like the idea that people
>>> who
>>> >>>>> have questions could contact an individual person directly with
>>> their
>>> >>>>> concerns or questions.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Jessy
>>> >>>>> --
>>> >>>>> http://jessykate.com
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Pippa Buchanan
>>> >>>>> <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> great feedback from jessy - but I accidentally deferred the
>>> message in
>>> >>>>>> the moderation filter. sorry jessy!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> switching the order of the explanation makes sense - thanks for
>>> >>>>>> pointing that out!
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> re volunteer course mentors - i recall us discussing it, but it
>>> didn't
>>> >>>>>> go much further then that. Was this meant to be a general P2PU
>>> approach or
>>> >>>>>> SoW specific?  Once we've got tags in place we'll also be able to
>>> point
>>> >>>>>> organisers towards many other organsiers working on similar
>>> topics.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> P*
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>>>> From: Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com>
>>> >>>>>> To: "School of Webcraft (Sow)" <p2pu-webcraft at lists.p2pu.org>
>>> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:43:49 -0400
>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [p2pu-webcraft] Please review: default decline
>>> message
>>> >>>>>> for non Webcraft courses and groups
>>> >>>>>> cool :) here's a couple thoughts:
>>> >>>>>> i would put the description about SoW and what differentiates it
>>> from
>>> >>>>>> p2pu *before* your decline statement, so that when you say, "it
>>> doesn't fit"
>>> >>>>>> you've already given the context for why.
>>> >>>>>> also when you say "let the community know" i would have a link to
>>> an
>>> >>>>>> individual person, as well a link to the mailing list. otherwise
>>> "community"
>>> >>>>>> seems a bit vague. i imagine many people won';t want to join a
>>> mailing list
>>> >>>>>> just to worksop their topic and if that's the only option, we
>>> might lose
>>> >>>>>> them, so having a human is useful IMHO.
>>> >>>>>> didn't we discuss the idea of having volunteer course
>>> >>>>>> mentors/contacts?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Jessy
>>> >>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>> http://jessykate.com
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