[p2pu-webcraft] Is Cold Fusion Relevant for School of Webcraft?

Pippa Buchanan Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com
Sun Jun 5 14:13:41 UTC 2011


Thanks for sharing your point of view Miles! It definitely makes it harder
to work out what to do though.

Dennis has given a really great response to Miles' email - It would be
excellent to hear what other Webcraft Community members have to say.

Pippa

On 4 June 2011 05:53, Dennis Riedel <riedel.dennis at gmail.com> wrote:

> >  but I've fallen in love with the language, and I'll do what I can to
> help bolster the open source community behind it.
> ´nuff said :D
>
> Another thing that came to my mind now is the fact that every programmer
> should have tested and tried different kind of programming languages. In
> every one of them he can find unique patterns, ideas and concepts of solving
> problems, which enhances experience, see problems from different angles and
> gives him tools at hand for problem solving. Each language might have its
> speciality for a certain kind of problem.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Miles Rausch <miles at milesrausch.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi, everyone.
>>
>> Pippa asked me to share my response to her with the collective group, to
>> make a case for my study group's inclusion in the School of Webcraft. I'm
>> including the full text of my reply here, so I apologize if the discussion
>> has already covered some of these points.
>>
>> If you have any questions or comments, I'm now a member of this mailing
>> list, so feel free to fire away.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Pippa:
>>
>> I appreciate your concern. You're right regarding Adobe; their ColdFusion
>> product is closed, expensive, and not entirely in the spirit of the Open
>> Web. However, my aim with this group was to focus on popular open source
>> CFML engines that are out there: OpenBD and Railo, namely.
>>
>> CFML is really just a JVM language, allowing anyone with Java installed to
>> host and run CFML applications. Both OpenBD (http://openbd.org) and Railo
>> (http://getrailo.org) are freely available (in a number of formats,
>> including source code) and allow contribution to their source code. Even
>> Adobe ColdFusion has a free Developer Edition, although that source code is
>> not available.
>>
>> Given the intended focus on open source CFML, I feel my group is fully
>> within the spirit of the Open Web and warrants inclusion in the School of
>> Webcraft. I've updated my group to use CFML instead of ColdFusion. In this
>> way, it focuses more on the language and less on the proprietary Adobe
>> application server.
>>
>> Does this clarification and these updates make this course a candidate for
>> inclusion? If not, is there more I can do (or more evidence I can provide)
>> to make my case? I know ColdFusion isn't a popular player on the web, and
>> Adobe has long been the only provider, but I've fallen in love with the
>> language, and I'll do what I can to help bolster the open source community
>> behind it.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Miles Rausch
>> http://www.milesrausch.com
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