[p2pu-webcraft] Help us build a tool specific user survey for past course organisers

Thu Apr 14 09:38:27 UTC 2011

@Mauro thanks for your five cents!

In the  P2PU Course
Organiser<http://p2puniversity.limequery.com/31721/lang-en>survey we
do ask questions about tools (pasted below), but they are very
general sample responses. As you point out it would be worthwhile to find
the most popular tools  (and toolkit combinations) that organisers use.

We've only just released the last P2PU survey. Perhaps we could do a tool
specific survey using Google Docs or even just this list amongst Webcraft
organisers (past and present) and incorporate those questions into the
general survey for next quarter.

Would you be able to suggest some sample questions?

Best,

Pippa

*Which of the following tools or services did you use in your P2PU course?
> Check any that apply
>
>     Twitter
>     Social networking application (For example, Facebook, Myspace)
>     Professional online network(s) (For example, LinkedIn, Xing)
>     Online photo sharing
>     RSS Reader
>     Online mailing list
>     Online discussion forums (posting to them)
>     Blogs (reading others people's)
>     Blogs (writing my own)
>     Social bookmarking (For example, delicious, diigo)
>     Google Docs (online)
>     Other
> *

On 14 April 2011 00:39, maurogmail <mauroramon at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi everyone.
> About jsFiddle (and some other third party plugins or embeds into p2pU
> platform:
> *(My humble opinion).*
> **
> I´be seen jsfiddle before, in some web example. And it really looks great!.
> I know there must be some "standarization" on the way the (next) p2pu
> platform will behave & contain, but it´s also true that in some scenarios
> video+pdf+ forum it´s better than jsfiddle+pdf+ posts in the platform, and
> this goes on and on and on...each course is a complete new world.
>
> As the new interface is being designed by the many eyes of peers
> /developers/students, it would be nice to ask -this is just an idea- the
> different teachers that had given a course, and those who are teaching now
> one, which combination they have used, which combination would have suited
> best their courses, and problems (and their suggestions) to find a way, or
> at least a "grid of corse materials & tools combinations", and then try to
> agree/vote/recommend "teaching patterns" or "teaching toolkits" to the
> arriving teachers.
>
> That´s when I think that conducting a 5 or 6 questions on Google Forms (@
> Google docs) it´s an easy/cheap/quickly way to get feedback on those topics,
> and then present the data in an useful way (in order to adjust the possible
> tools and methods a given teacher could use).
> *ok.* Each teacher *would* prefer his/her own methods, that´s right. But I
> see no harm in knowing how others structure their courses as well.
>
> My 5 cents.
> Sincerely, Mauro (an student @ p2pu)
>
> *By the way, very very nice interface mockup in
> *
>
> https://files.pbworks.com/download/iXhi671OzU/p2pu/34043724/P2PU_Showcase1.png
> *Great!*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dan Diebolt <dandiebolt at gmail.com>
> *To:* School of Webcraft (Sow) <p2pu-webcraft at lists.p2pu.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:00 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [p2pu-webcraft] Interactive Open Video with Popcorn.js
>
> YouTube just converted to <iframe> embedding earlier this year from the
> decade long practice of using nested <object><embed> crud. Posterous [
> https://posterous.com/] allows <iframe>.
>
> *Stunning examples of Using jsFiddle on Blog via <iframe>*
>
> http://andrewwooldridge.com/blog/2011/03/16/stunning-examples-of-using-jsfiddle/
>
> <http://andrewwooldridge.com/blog/2011/03/16/stunning-examples-of-using-jsfiddle/>Do
> a blog search for jsfiddle:
>
> *Google Blog Search for jsfiddle*
> http://www.google.com/search?tbm=blg&q=jsfiddle&num=100
>
>  <http://www.google.com/search?tbm=blg&q=jsfiddle&num=100>Even if I were
> to buy the argument you should not embed jsFiddle within P2PU (I DON'T)
> where would your propose anyone display their jsFiddle? One of the repeated
> complaints you hear from learners is that materials are spread all over the
> place. If you are going to just provide link off-platfrom it is like
> regressing into the days of hypercard and CD based learning system where
> every interaction loaded new content.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan
>>
>> I know that you're very passionate about this topic, but perhaps the
>> ultimate decision is to _not_ embed JSFiddle and similar content:
>>
>>  a) JSFiddle may not be designed to be embedded (please correct me if I'm
>> wrong and provide *one* REALLY good example of embedded JSFiddle or
>> JSDo.it in another site's template)
>> b) wikis and the p2pu sites have other, far more general design
>> considerations and priorities than embedding a full width tool.
>>
>> If so, what solutions can we come up with _instead_ of <iframe> embeds?
>>
>> Are there alternatives to embed that you could describe that allow for non
>> P2PU content to be easily linked and viewed outside of the main site?.
>> Perhaps a Stumble Upon like frame which lets the target sites be viewed at
>> an appropriate size. Could a Firefox Add On provide the required
>> functionality of viewing and linking back into the P2PU context?
>>
>> Thinking outside of a purely Webcraft context, could this tool also be
>> useful for people viewing and responding to content such as blog entries?
>> Keeping track of this content is also difficult and requires flipping
>> between tabs, just as much as JSFiddle does :-)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Pippa
>>
>>
>> On 13 April 2011 23:24, Dan Diebolt <dandiebolt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There are several hundred jsFiddles available from the jQuery course and
>>> on the embed course. All the Google Chart jQuery examples produced png
>>> images as their primary output. The examples in the embed course cover a
>>> much wider territory from Dr. Alphonse Mephisto's Gengram of Ecoli to
>>> SVGGirl's superlative SVG anime animation using jsdo.it(the Japanese version of jsFiddle).
>>>
>>> I remain very confused (I have just been experimenting) over where any of
>>> this content could appropriately land as there are layout obstacles and and
>>> access annoyances of one sort or another in every location www.p2pu.org,
>>> new.p2pu.org, wiki.p2pu etc.
>>>
>>
>>
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