Hey folks,<div><br></div><div>I'm working with two student groups here at University of Michigan that plan to use the P2PU platform to host content. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm wondering what is the timeframe for the launch of the new platform? For both of these projects we can use other spaces (blogs or Google docs, most likely) to develop the content and port them into P2PU later but it'll be an extra step.</div><div><br></div><div>Background on the two projects at U-M: </div><div><br></div><div>I've got one student, Victoria Lungu, who is working on a learning module for her Information Literacy course. Earlier this semester she used the "Get CC Savvy" course to teach an in-person peer-based workshop (<a href="http://victorialungu.weebly.com/1/post/2012/11/fun-fridays-what-we-did-what-we-learned-what-next.html">http://victorialungu.weebly.com/1/post/2012/11/fun-fridays-what-we-did-what-we-learned-what-next.html</a>). She wants to either expand some of the School of Open stubs (like the Public Domain Detective) or create a new course for the School of Open and explore how to generate a course in P2PU that facilitates both online, personal learning, and in-person peer learning. She's concerned about putting a lot of time into developing content for this assignment that might not translate well onto the new platform.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm also working with the A2DataDive student team (<a href="http://a2datadive.org/">http://a2datadive.org/</a>) to figure out how we might be able to use the P2PU platform to organize and share out both the process and results of our participatory, peer-based data analysis events (datadive). Last year we put this stuff up on a wiki and hosted the output on Open.Michigan's <a href="http://open.umich.edu/education/si/resources/datadive/winter2012">collection</a> but we've been talking with the School of Data folks and the A2DataDive goals/activities align very closely with the School of Data goals/activities. We're experimenting with using the P2PU platform as a space to collect, organize and help translate the activities and resources of the datadive into a global network. <br><br>Thanks!</div><div>Emily </div><div><br>On Friday, November 2, 2012 5:38:53 AM UTC-4, bekka wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Hi good people</span></span></div>

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</span></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Here are the noted from yesterday's community call - thanks to all those who dialled in. </span></span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:0px">As always, full transcripts and the chat can be found on the etherpad: <a href="http://pad.p2pu.org/p/community-20121101" target="_blank">http://pad.p2pu.org/<wbr>p/community-20121101</a></span></span></div>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Vanessa</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Chris</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Bekka</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Philipp</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Dirk</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px">4P& an i  report back</b></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

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<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Progress (what </u></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px">we</u></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px">/p2pu</u></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> worked on this week)</u></span></span></div>

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<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Feedback literature review: </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><a href="http://pad.p2pu.org/p/feedback_research" style="margin:0px;padding:0px" target="_blank">http://pad.p2pu.org/p/<wbr>feedback_research</a></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> [VMG]</span></span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Assessment plan work [VMG]</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Badges issuer idea - first concept</span></li>

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<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Slides for School of Open Webinar</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> - How to make a P2PU course</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> [VMG]</span></span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Getting stuck in Brooklyn (although it's not bad!) [VMG]</span></li></ul></div>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Course UX getting ready for beta run (<a href="http://beta.p2pu.org" target="_blank">beta.p2pu.org</a>)</span></li>

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<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">LRMI</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> learning registry metadata i.....</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> - chat with Greg </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">who leads LRMI implementation with partners </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">(DU)</span></span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Course UX getting ready for beta run (<a href="http://beta.p2pu.org" target="_blank">beta.p2pu.org</a>)</span></li>

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<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Fresh data dump for June</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> Anh (HCI researcher at University of Maryland) to analyze</span></span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Community Stuff: [BK]</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Setting up calls with core community members</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Trying new methods of engaging new course organisers (bypassing <a href="http://p2pu.org" target="_blank">p2pu.org</a>'s internal message system)</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Org admin:</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">We filed our first Tax returns</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Paid salaries</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">CSS Framework - </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">check it out on alpha if you're interested [CE]</span></span></li>

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<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Mooc - developing emails and </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">providing </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">user support</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> for Mech MOOC / Gentle Introduction to Python</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> [CE]</span></span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Exploring projects with maker community (public libraries) and teachers (cambridge teachers) - both are still early stage and may not go anywhere [PS]</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Assessment taxonomy--what kinds of feedback are appropriate at what stages/intervals/interactions? [VMG]</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">School of Sound meeting/curriculum planning [VMG]</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Shuttleworth Gathering, Mozilla Festival</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Getting some courses ready on <a href="http://beta.p2pu.org" target="_blank">beta.p2pu.org</a> and inviting a few people</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Blog post to anounce new </span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Rethinking community engagement - onboarding discussions with VMG & PS </span></li>

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</span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Problems (Walls I ran into on the way)</u></span></div>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Need for discussion about relationship with "schools" (see below)</span></li>
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</span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Process (org stuff)</u></span></div>

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<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Philipp away next week, may be offline for a bit the week after</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><u style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Ideas (stuff that people should know about but isn't yet a priority)</u></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Office hours [VMG]</span></li>

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</span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Agenda</b></span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Course UX</b></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> getting ready for beta run (<a href="http://beta.p2pu.org" target="_blank">beta.p2pu.org</a>)</span></span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Want to have a test running of the new CSS frameowrk on <a href="http://Beta.p2pu.org" target="_blank">Beta.p2pu.org</a> - so we need some courses and people to work/run things</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Process: No call for stuff has gone out yet - would be good to get some people who might be interested</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">A targetted call for people (ie: not a message on the community list?)</span></li></ul></div>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">every staffer brings a friend</span></span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">VMG: we should get people who are both power-users and not power users </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Video capture would be good too </span></li></ul></div>
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<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">VMG: I'd like to see where the discussions happen, perhaps prompt people and then watch where they go to do things. </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Usertesting.com has credits for us that we can use - they are very good at narrating their processes</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Also suggest finding people who are not P2PU-related, so they come to it totally new. </span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">PS: If we have concerns about what it looks like now, we should address them immediatly - if we know that's a concern lets make a change now, so that we can find out the more complex problems. </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">List of friends to run courses (both power users and new users)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Sam Allingham is a great example</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> +1</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> +1 (he's the proto user)</span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Philipp</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Bekka</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Vanessa</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Dirk</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Chris</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Alex Kehayias</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Chloe </span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Leah Macvie</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Piet</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Jose</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Paul Osman</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Jane (Open Gov course)</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">DU: I think we should get people to come and do stuff and use the site now, rather than just asking people to do "user testing" - </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">+1</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">+1 lots</span></span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Yes to limited call - reaching out to individuals</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Ask people to "run a course" / make it real</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Build community among the people who are part of the experiment</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">CE: Dirk needs course UX feedback and I need feedback for the new CSS - can we do it in one go?</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> Yes</span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">PS: We're wanting to do this on the beta site, so I think you could get both at the same time. </span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Next steps: </span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">1 - Address immediate concerns right now</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">CE and DU to co-ordinate about technical details of merging the two </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Do a limited call for course organizers (BK, DU will help)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 6em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Ask: Run a course on the beta site</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Support for Schools</b></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></span></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Different schools have different needs - some are happy within <a href="http://p2pu.org" target="_blank">p2pu.org</a> others need more space / flexibility, in order to:</span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Build stronger community centered around the school</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Feature and promote courses that are not on Lernanta</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Run courses not on Lernanta</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Blog updates</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Examples:</span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">School of Ed - courses on P2PU, but community lives elsewhere</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">School of Data - community site on wordpress, </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"><a href="http://schoolofdata.org/" style="margin:0px;padding:0px" target="_blank">http://<wbr>schoolofdata.org</a></span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">, want to provide access to data relevant courses through <a href="http://schoolofdata.org" target="_blank">schoolofdata.org</a></span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Questions:</span></div>

<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:none">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">How can we distribute P2PU through the web = how can we make our tools available to a range of different schools?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">What are concerns with a more distributed approach?</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">VMG: How can we better identify the features that people need upfront? Can we predict these requests?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Can we include a preliminary evaluation of the platform into the front-end so that we can avoid frustrations?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">-> So everyone can decide if the collaboration makes sense </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">DU: There are limitations to what features and requests we can support for schools</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BK: Who are we serving?</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In some situations we have been given money or resources, and they influence what we can and are prepared to do</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">In other contexts it's more of a "here is what you get / take it or leave it" approach, because we can't prioritize one school over others</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">DU: </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">Are schools partners to P2PU or are school the default way that we organize groups within P2PU?</span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">CE: Is P2PU the layer of learning around "content"? One size does not fit all with respect to courses and schools.</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Does P2PU *make* the content/experience or does P2PU lend expertise to content development/experience?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BK: And we need to remember that we have another community of independent learners who will still be using P2PU outside of schools (even though it often appears that most of the action is happening in the schools)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">PS: Sounds like there is some frustration that schools are driving a lot of the activity, and in some cases the work that is being done on a school is funded time, and we have an obligation to deliver certain things, whereas for others that's not the case. </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">DU: The fundamental question remains "what is our relationship with schools?"</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Are the independent partners? Or are they a group of people organised within P2PU? </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Seems like right now, schools are an organised group within P2PU and I don't think that's necessarily the case. </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">At a university, things happen within faculties - are schools our faculties? </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 6em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">P2PU could be the liberal arts college for things that aren't in schools</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Is P2PU only on <a href="http://p2pu.org" target="_blank">p2pu.org</a> or distributed across the web (e.g. schools can live elsewhere)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">We offer a model of learning online (peer to peer, project based)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">We offer tools, lernanta, badges, mechanical mooc (that they can use or not)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">VMG: I know that we spec out the expected roles and relationships for some of our projects - to what extent would it be useful to provide a kit or protocol for guiding what we do with schools?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Do we have a similar agreement with schools?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">That way we could know what to do when, and be more helpful</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BK: We tried a schools application process in the past and it didn't work so well, but maybe worth reconsidering</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">PS: Are we happy to consider a future where we would be building tools for schools, and having partnerships with people to do this? </span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">CE: My notion of what would be right for us right now would be as a</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> community that is intimately knowledgeable about all the different tools (including ours) you can use and models you can use / </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> aggregator for content</span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BK: What is the role of our own platform then?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">CE: If we were to have something it would be a light-weight wrapper (PS: What does that mean though?)</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">DU: I feel the same way as CE. Should maintain a platform, but it should be more like an instance of a school itself</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">, rather than a massively comprehensive platform where many different schools have come together. </span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px">

<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">DU: What do we offer to schools? A learning experience (or two), homepage, pedadogical advice, tech advice?</span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Services:</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">A place to create a course</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> for people who aren't in a school and don't have a lot of technical expertise</span></span></li>

</ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px"><ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square">

<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Badge issuer</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Mechanical MOOC</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Mentoring (potentially)</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 4.5em;padding:0px;list-style-type:square"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">List of courses across schools</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px"> +1</span></span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Consulting</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">PS: lots of potential in working with some schools and maybe building something more custom</span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px">, leverage our tools, but also our expertise</span></span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Responses:</span></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px 1px 0px 0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:17px">

<ul style="margin:0px 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px;list-style-type:circle"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BK: I don't know what this would mean for the community - do you join a big community which is divided up over smaller "schools" (like groups on facebook for example?)</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Is each school reponsible for its own community?</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I don't really understand what this perspective "solves"</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">The problem: Right now we can't innovate with schools, because they either use our platform or they don't</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This conversation is focusing more on frustrations with platform than any other services P2PU could offer</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">PS: right now, I think we're not comfortable innovating with schools who aren't using our platform, and I think we should find a way to get excited about this, and come up with ways to partner with people beyond the platform</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">DU: like the idea - I thing it isn't a bad thing that School of Data is going with WordPress</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">DU: We create the bits and pieces (in terms of tools and technology) they need</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Courses could be something separate from lernanta. The mechmooc is currently something completely different, but it doesn't stop us from listing a mooc that's running on the learn page.</span></li>

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<span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">BK: This could be exciting, but we also need to </span><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(199,247,245)">cater for people and communities that don't fit into a school</span></li>

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<li style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="margin:0px;padding:1px 0px;background-color:rgb(199,247,245)">PS: P2PU can still offer any course</span></li></ul>
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