We could host on different server/IP (we have two linodes, and OSUOSL). <div><br></div><div>Question is -> is YUE interested in using a hosted solution, or is self-hosting key for them?</div><div><br></div><div>P</div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/23 Stian Håklev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shaklev@gmail.com">shaklev@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Blocking is usually by IP, so same server different domain would make no difference. That was our problem with PBwiki.<div><br><font color="#888888">Stian</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2011/5/23 Philipp Schmidt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phi.schmidt@gmail.com" target="_blank">phi.schmidt@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>We could consider hosting a separate instance of lernanata on out server / different domain for them if that would solve the problem. P</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 May 2011 10:11 PM, "Alan Webb" <<a href="mailto:alancwebb@gmail.com" target="_blank">alancwebb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Hi everyone, just a few notes from a budding partnership with YUE who wants<br>
> to work with P2PU to get courses started at around 90 universities in China<br>> around the topics of storytelling and project management. Laura and I are<br>> helping them build up those courses in successive stages starting this<br>
> summer and going into the Fall. YUE is also Wiser-U's partner in China and<br>> we are going to be pulling in some help from Ashoka U's network to help<br>> build these courses also, so this is helping facilitate a great convergence<br>
> among organisations we would like to feel more and more a part of SoSI.<br>> <br>> YUE seems reluctant to use the P2PU site or help with localization, but we<br>> did talk about that and they do have the technical capability to help out.<br>
> Their concerns all seem to stem from a fear that the site could become<br>> blocked any day, for example by some unmoderated political content getting<br>> posted. For that reason, they seem inclined to start with home-grown<br>
> solutions ror now for sharing powerpoints to be used by study groups, and to<br>> use QQ or home-grown forums for connecting students. And in the mean time<br>> we'll keep talking about how to tie that work together and at a minimum<br>
> share what they do in some way with the rest of the world through P2PU (they<br>> offered to translate materials they produce into English, we offered that<br>> their energy might be better spent translating the overall P2PU site into<br>
> Chinese, but that didn't address the above concerns).<br>> <br>> This brings up a discussion I had a long time ago with Stian about what<br>> localization in China might look like, so it's not a new one, but it's<br>
> becoming immediate relevant.<br>> <br>> I'd like to ask if anyone has any creative ideas about how to handle<br>> localization in a place where not just language translation, but also<br>> government censorship and blocking, are very real concerns and challenges.<br>
> <br>> Just for the sake of conversation, if the value of P2PU is in our community<br>> more so than our technology, are there any creative ideas how we can help<br>> them connect, brand and communicate themselves as part of the P2PU<br>
> community, even if it turns out that they might prefer a home-grown tech<br>> solution, or even if they remain reluctant to move their work to one<br>> platform and domain hosted in the U.S.? What does working together and<br>
> sharing look like in that scenario?<br>> <br>> I think this taps into some much broader conversations about the nature and<br>> vision of this community, so I wanted to put it out to everyone for<br>> discussion!<br>
> <br>> Many Thanks,<br>> Alan<br>> <br>> <br>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>> From: 谢昱Emilia <<a href="mailto:emiliaxie@qq.com" target="_blank">emiliaxie@qq.com</a>><br>> Date: 2011/5/20<br>
> Subject: YUE +p2pu<br>
> To: lew3425 <<a href="mailto:lew3425@gmail.com" target="_blank">lew3425@gmail.com</a>>, "飘飘@QQ.com" <<a href="mailto:392209216@qq.com" target="_blank">392209216@qq.com</a>>, 海阔天空 <<br>> <a href="mailto:545868732@qq.com" target="_blank">545868732@qq.com</a>>, creatorkuang <<a href="mailto:creatorkuang@gmail.com" target="_blank">creatorkuang@gmail.com</a>>, Alan Webb <<br>
> <a href="mailto:alancwebb@gmail.com" target="_blank">alancwebb@gmail.com</a>><br>> <br>> <br>> Hi everyone,<br>> Tonight we have done a great job!<br>> Here are topics we have talked about:<br>> <br>
> 1, Plan for p2pu to enter into China:<br>
> Step 1) Design the course together, recruit someone from Ashoka to help<br>> facilitate - during June<br>> Step 2) Test the course in July together with people who can help pass it on<br>> Step 3) Announce at Wiser U Camp in August<br>
> Step 4) Invite more people to join in Sept / Oct<br>> <br>> 2, Course Model:<br>> Step 1) Members of YUE take the p2pu course and p2pu offer YUE course<br>> resourse(ppt&words)<br>> Step 2) The members of YUE retell the course to other students<br>
> Step 3) Other students give course to their group~<br>> Step 4) Collect feedback<br>> <br>> 3, Course design:<br>> By June 6th, p2pu collect course suggestion and Laura prepare a Course list<br>> June -- July 1st, course design by e-mail( Step 1: build the course<br>
> list ---- by June ?? 15th is OK?)<br>> ( Step 2: fullfill the<br>> course(p2pu& YUE) ----- by June?? 25th is OK?)<br>> ( Step 3: promote the<br>
> course -----by June ?? )<br>> E-mail:<br>> Laura White: <a href="mailto:lew3425@gmail.com" target="_blank">lew3425@gmail.com</a><br>> Emilia Xie :<a href="mailto:emiliaxie@qq.com" target="_blank">emiliaxie@qq.com</a><br>
> Perry Huang: <a href="mailto:392209216@qq.com" target="_blank">392209216@qq.com</a><br>
> Alan Webb: <a href="mailto:AlanCWebb@gmail.com" target="_blank">AlanCWebb@gmail.com</a><br>> creator kuang" <<a href="mailto:creatorkuang@gmail.com" target="_blank">creatorkuang@gmail.com</a>><br>> Wushisheng :<a href="mailto:545868732@qq.com" target="_blank">545868732@qq.com</a><br>
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