[p2pu-dev] [p2pu-community] Re: [school-of-open] Preparing for second run: some platform reflections

Thu May 2 18:47:46 UTC 2013

Thanks Jane, and all! I have tweaked and added to that Etherpad. Great
organization =)
-Pete

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jane Park <janepark at creativecommons.org>wrote:

> This is all great feedback Pete. I've combined your feedback with Delia's
> and Jessica's at this pad:
> http://pad.p2pu.org/p/school-of-open-course-feedback.
>
> Let's discuss further on next week's SOO call. I'll also schedule a
> separate call for SOO faciliators who can't make that call. Then we'll
> collect and distill all feedback and prioritize with P2PU dev on what is
> and is not feasible for July 2013 cycle. :)
>
> Best,
> Jane
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org> wrote:
>
>> Sidenote: Our tech lead Dirk is away for the week. I'm sure he'll chime
>> in when he gets back.
>>
>> This reminds me of an idea we had a while ago. Letting people list
>> courses on P2PU (and as part of P2PU) that are hosted elsewhere. The course
>> would just be a splashpage that points people elsewhere. Or we could still
>> handle sign-up through P2PU (so course organizers have some way of managing
>> communication with those who join their course).
>>
>> P
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2013 04:24, Rebecca Kahn <bekka at p2pu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> This is really great feedback, thank you so much! I've added the P2Pu
>>> community and tech team in here, because I think this discussion has
>>> relevance for all of us too - and I'd be interested to hear other people's
>>> opinions.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Bekka
>>>
>>> On 2 May 2013 05:31, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Sara and I are getting ready to run "Writing Wikipedia Articles" for
>>>> the second time, starting (gasp) next week. We thought it might be a good
>>>> moment to share some of the stuff we're changing up, and how it relates to
>>>> the SOO platform.
>>>>
>>>> Our major change is that we're adopting Wikipedia's "course pages<http://enwp.org/WP:Course_pages>"
>>>> -- something we probably should have done the first time around, instead of
>>>> reinventing the wheel! This is a system designed to support Wikipedia class
>>>> assignments -- it's generally for university courses on any topic, but is
>>>> of course a good fit where Wikipedia itself is the topic.
>>>>
>>>> The Course Pages are essentially a platform designed to handle many of
>>>> the same things as SOO; so for us, this will mean simplifying our SOO
>>>> presence, and guiding students to engage on Wikipedia immediately after
>>>> signing up, so that they immediately treat Wikipedia as their main LMS
>>>> platform throughout the class.
>>>>
>>>> This highlights a couple of issues (which I think I've brought up here
>>>> before) with the SOO platform:
>>>>
>>>>    1. We would very much like it if we could disable Disqus, and
>>>>    populate the "Discussion" tab with our own content (basically saying, "here
>>>>    is where we discuss things on Wikipedia, and here's how to contact us by
>>>>    email). This is really important from our perspective; like many SOO
>>>>    topics, we have an issue of "a platform within a platform within a
>>>>    platform" which leads to very complex screens full of information that is
>>>>    not all directly relevant to the student, and removing extraneous
>>>>    discussion options will go a long way toward helping us create a cleaner,
>>>>    more comprehensible user experience.
>>>>    2. No version history or archive system for SOO pages. Related to
>>>>    our desire to be able to see each other's changes to the course pages; in
>>>>    this case, we would like to be able to *archive* the 6 or 8 pages
>>>>    that we are retiring, in case we want to refer back to them, instead of
>>>>    *deleting* them. We've worked around it by pasting the markdown
>>>>    into a Google Doc, but this is a bit cumbersome.
>>>>
>>>> We're also wrestling with how to handle our dual nature as an ongoing
>>>> concern, vs. a single iteration of the course (and, soon, vs. a self-paced,
>>>> unfacilitated version). In some ways, we want to present ourselves as a
>>>> "timeless" thing, and in other ways, as something that is "starting next
>>>> Tuesday, and running through mid-June." There are a number of aspects to
>>>> this: public web presence, private/coordination pages and documents,
>>>> enrollment lists. And, how/where do we keep pages that may still be useful
>>>> to the students who finished last month but are still wrapping up, even as
>>>> we present fresh pages to new students?
>>>>
>>>> This is sort of a "work-out-loud" email -- if any of you happen to have
>>>> suggestions about this stuff, please let us know; but mostly, we're just
>>>> looking to keep you up to date with where we're at and how we're
>>>> approaching things. Hopefully #1 and 2 will be addressed at some point, but
>>>> they're not show-stoppers, obviously :)
>>>>
>>>> -Pete
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