[p2pu-dev] [p2pu-community] Re: [school-of-open] Preparing for second run: some platform reflections

Thu May 2 18:16:19 UTC 2013

This is all great feedback Pete. I've combined your feedback with Delia's
and Jessica's at this pad:
http://pad.p2pu.org/p/school-of-open-course-feedback.

Let's discuss further on next week's SOO call. I'll also schedule a
separate call for SOO faciliators who can't make that call. Then we'll
collect and distill all feedback and prioritize with P2PU dev on what is
and is not feasible for July 2013 cycle. :)

Best,
Jane

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org> wrote:

> Sidenote: Our tech lead Dirk is away for the week. I'm sure he'll chime in
> when he gets back.
>
> This reminds me of an idea we had a while ago. Letting people list courses
> on P2PU (and as part of P2PU) that are hosted elsewhere. The course would
> just be a splashpage that points people elsewhere. Or we could still handle
> sign-up through P2PU (so course organizers have some way of managing
> communication with those who join their course).
>
> P
>
>
> On 2 May 2013 04:24, Rebecca Kahn <bekka at p2pu.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> This is really great feedback, thank you so much! I've added the P2Pu
>> community and tech team in here, because I think this discussion has
>> relevance for all of us too - and I'd be interested to hear other people's
>> opinions.
>>
>> Best
>> Bekka
>>
>> On 2 May 2013 05:31, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sara and I are getting ready to run "Writing Wikipedia Articles" for the
>>> second time, starting (gasp) next week. We thought it might be a good
>>> moment to share some of the stuff we're changing up, and how it relates to
>>> the SOO platform.
>>>
>>> Our major change is that we're adopting Wikipedia's "course pages<http://enwp.org/WP:Course_pages>"
>>> -- something we probably should have done the first time around, instead of
>>> reinventing the wheel! This is a system designed to support Wikipedia class
>>> assignments -- it's generally for university courses on any topic, but is
>>> of course a good fit where Wikipedia itself is the topic.
>>>
>>> The Course Pages are essentially a platform designed to handle many of
>>> the same things as SOO; so for us, this will mean simplifying our SOO
>>> presence, and guiding students to engage on Wikipedia immediately after
>>> signing up, so that they immediately treat Wikipedia as their main LMS
>>> platform throughout the class.
>>>
>>> This highlights a couple of issues (which I think I've brought up here
>>> before) with the SOO platform:
>>>
>>>    1. We would very much like it if we could disable Disqus, and
>>>    populate the "Discussion" tab with our own content (basically saying, "here
>>>    is where we discuss things on Wikipedia, and here's how to contact us by
>>>    email). This is really important from our perspective; like many SOO
>>>    topics, we have an issue of "a platform within a platform within a
>>>    platform" which leads to very complex screens full of information that is
>>>    not all directly relevant to the student, and removing extraneous
>>>    discussion options will go a long way toward helping us create a cleaner,
>>>    more comprehensible user experience.
>>>    2. No version history or archive system for SOO pages. Related to
>>>    our desire to be able to see each other's changes to the course pages; in
>>>    this case, we would like to be able to *archive* the 6 or 8 pages
>>>    that we are retiring, in case we want to refer back to them, instead of
>>>    *deleting* them. We've worked around it by pasting the markdown into
>>>    a Google Doc, but this is a bit cumbersome.
>>>
>>> We're also wrestling with how to handle our dual nature as an ongoing
>>> concern, vs. a single iteration of the course (and, soon, vs. a self-paced,
>>> unfacilitated version). In some ways, we want to present ourselves as a
>>> "timeless" thing, and in other ways, as something that is "starting next
>>> Tuesday, and running through mid-June." There are a number of aspects to
>>> this: public web presence, private/coordination pages and documents,
>>> enrollment lists. And, how/where do we keep pages that may still be useful
>>> to the students who finished last month but are still wrapping up, even as
>>> we present fresh pages to new students?
>>>
>>> This is sort of a "work-out-loud" email -- if any of you happen to have
>>> suggestions about this stuff, please let us know; but mostly, we're just
>>> looking to keep you up to date with where we're at and how we're
>>> approaching things. Hopefully #1 and 2 will be addressed at some point, but
>>> they're not show-stoppers, obviously :)
>>>
>>> -Pete
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