[p2pu-dev] [p2pu-community] Re: [school-of-open] Preparing for second run: some platform reflections

[Philipp Schmidt]

Sidenote: Our tech lead Dirk is away for the week. I'm sure he'll chime in
when he gets back.

This reminds me of an idea we had a while ago. Letting people list courses
on P2PU (and as part of P2PU) that are hosted elsewhere. The course would
just be a splashpage that points people elsewhere. Or we could still handle
sign-up through P2PU (so course organizers have some way of managing
communication with those who join their course).

P


On 2 May 2013 04:24, Rebecca Kahn <bekka at p2pu.org> wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> This is really great feedback, thank you so much! I've added the P2Pu
> community and tech team in here, because I think this discussion has
> relevance for all of us too - and I'd be interested to hear other people's
> opinions.
>
> Best
> Bekka
>
> On 2 May 2013 05:31, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sara and I are getting ready to run "Writing Wikipedia Articles" for the
>> second time, starting (gasp) next week. We thought it might be a good
>> moment to share some of the stuff we're changing up, and how it relates to
>> the SOO platform.
>>
>> Our major change is that we're adopting Wikipedia's "course pages<http://enwp.org/WP:Course_pages>"
>> -- something we probably should have done the first time around, instead of
>> reinventing the wheel! This is a system designed to support Wikipedia class
>> assignments -- it's generally for university courses on any topic, but is
>> of course a good fit where Wikipedia itself is the topic.
>>
>> The Course Pages are essentially a platform designed to handle many of
>> the same things as SOO; so for us, this will mean simplifying our SOO
>> presence, and guiding students to engage on Wikipedia immediately after
>> signing up, so that they immediately treat Wikipedia as their main LMS
>> platform throughout the class.
>>
>> This highlights a couple of issues (which I think I've brought up here
>> before) with the SOO platform:
>>
>>    1. We would very much like it if we could disable Disqus, and
>>    populate the "Discussion" tab with our own content (basically saying, "here
>>    is where we discuss things on Wikipedia, and here's how to contact us by
>>    email). This is really important from our perspective; like many SOO
>>    topics, we have an issue of "a platform within a platform within a
>>    platform" which leads to very complex screens full of information that is
>>    not all directly relevant to the student, and removing extraneous
>>    discussion options will go a long way toward helping us create a cleaner,
>>    more comprehensible user experience.
>>    2. No version history or archive system for SOO pages. Related to our
>>    desire to be able to see each other's changes to the course pages; in this
>>    case, we would like to be able to *archive* the 6 or 8 pages that we
>>    are retiring, in case we want to refer back to them, instead of *
>>    deleting* them. We've worked around it by pasting the markdown into a
>>    Google Doc, but this is a bit cumbersome.
>>
>> We're also wrestling with how to handle our dual nature as an ongoing
>> concern, vs. a single iteration of the course (and, soon, vs. a self-paced,
>> unfacilitated version). In some ways, we want to present ourselves as a
>> "timeless" thing, and in other ways, as something that is "starting next
>> Tuesday, and running through mid-June." There are a number of aspects to
>> this: public web presence, private/coordination pages and documents,
>> enrollment lists. And, how/where do we keep pages that may still be useful
>> to the students who finished last month but are still wrapping up, even as
>> we present fresh pages to new students?
>>
>> This is sort of a "work-out-loud" email -- if any of you happen to have
>> suggestions about this stuff, please let us know; but mostly, we're just
>> looking to keep you up to date with where we're at and how we're
>> approaching things. Hopefully #1 and 2 will be addressed at some point, but
>> they're not show-stoppers, obviously :)
>>
>> -Pete
>>
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