[p2pu-dev] Notes from Community Call

Rebecca Kahn bekka at p2pu.org
Thu Jan 26 22:43:04 UTC 2012

Hi everyone

Here are the notes of this week's calls. Thanks to everyone who let us
guinea-pig the new format on them - we think it worked rather well!
As always, all notes, as well as the chat transcripts are available on the
etherpad: http://pad.p2pu.org/community2

*January 2**6*

   - Attendees

   - Alan

   - Gunner

   - Carla

   - Jessy

   - Philipp

   - Zuzel

   - Sunny

   - Chloe


   - Standups (in writing only)

   - Alison

   - DIY U overhaul: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/diy-u/

   - Mtgs with DIY U researchers

   - New DIY U launch Feb 1!

   - Compiled New Courses list, lots of amazing drafts.

   - Bekka

   - Gathering information for tax filing

   - Insurance paperwork

   - Planning for open ed week with Chloe

   - General admin

   - Chloe

   - SoW Survey collecting data for Challenge Pilot

   - Design Assessment Features, first pass- collected feedback from Erin &
   Philipp, will move to next iteration and share with community in a few
   weeks. If you want to get involved em me directly.

   - Challenge Creation party with Brian Brennan &Rob Spectre, they are not
   complete yet but you can check them out, hope is to release next week,
   feature them in SoW front page.

   - Draft here http://p2pu.org/en/groups/create-your-first-python-website &

   - John (on vacation)

   - Philipp

   - Board meeting - Budget 2012 approved

   - Times Higher Education comment piece (coming out shortly)

   - Hiring (no success yet)

   - Jessy

   - started posting the programming 101 challenge ("programming with
   APIs"). hope to be done today, maybe tomorrow.

   - will definitely want feedback/suggestions when it's up.

   - approaching profs of my reading class in HCI this semester to see if
   they are cool w me running a p2pu version of the course in parallel.

   - Zuzel

   - We started including approximate dates of release to more cards in the
   project pipeline:

   - Sent badges survey to webmaking 101 challenge participants

   - Heads up: website maintenance this weekend  : http://goo.gl/noX6I

   - Alan

   - Recruiting the Design Thinking organizers this week and next from Hubs
   (Melbourne, SF, Westminister, DC)

   - Working on the Pitch to the Hub Association for the Peer Masters

   - Preparing for the Ashoka U Exchange workshop

   - News of the week (in writing only)

   - Blog posts you wrote

   - Mixing P2PU into the university classroom:

   - Apple Textbooks -

   - Articles you read

   - John on vacation?

   - "An American man sustained only minor injuries after jumping off Table
   Mountain in Cape Town in a winged suit and falling 197 feet" -

   - Initiatives you heard about

   - Short report backs (1 min)

   - *New Courses**:*

   - READY

   - Hello, git. Hello, heroku. Hello, node.:
   http://p2pu.org/en/groups/hello-git-hello-heroku-hello-node/  // this is
   not ready yet, please don't feature, i can let you know when it is

   - Create Your First Python Website:
   http://p2pu.org/en/groups/create-your-first-python-website/  // this is
   not ready yet, please don't feature, i can let you know when it is


   - Arrow of Time Milestones MOOC:

   - (LHC) Test4Theory: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/test4theory/

   - Alfa III: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/alfa-iii/

   - Information Systems Ethics:

   - Explore Your Empathy: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/explore-your-empathy/

   - Secon Classroom Collaborations:

   - Elem Classroom Collaborations:

   - Personal Learning: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/personal-learning/

   - Public Speaking: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/public-speaking-2/

   - Be Sharp, C-Sharp: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/be-sharp-c-sharp/

   - Multimedias con Adobe Director:


   - How do we help these people? (what does this mean?)

   - Common uses of the group feature: more unlikely courses (that probably
   won't go anywhere)  are being created than likely ones.

   - 2 categories:

   - People testing the platform

   - People create a mission/course and never come back to it - we want to
   catch these people.

   - Philipp -> as a quick fix for people who are not spammers can we set
   up an alpha server, and in the form let people know that they can play
   around in that space ( +1 Alison)

   - Single sign on? Link to alpha.p2pu.org (this is close to what philipp

   - Sandbox for this purpose?... we already have http://sandbox.p2pu.org/

   - note: sandbox.p2pu.org is pointing to p2pu.org

   - *task:* redirect dns to alpha.p2pu.org

   - What do we need to make this work?

   - Update home page content on sandbox so people know their stuff can
   disappear at any time

   - Update Course Creation form on p2pu.org so people know there is a

   - Ali -> these people are pretty web savvy, and aren't scared to test,
   so not too much handholding would be required.

   - Alan -> might the course review feature take care of a lot of these?

   - Ali -> yes. And a sandbox would reduce the amount of mail and
   notifications that come in to the admin account.

   - Alan -> Could courses be cloned from the sandbox to P2Pu.org?

   - Probably not, and we don't want people to think that the sandbox is
   the place where they create their courses.

   - Zuzel -> There is a thread on the community list about review feature
   - can someone please shake that thread so we don't forget about it!

   - What's the subject of that thread?

   - *Next steps: *

   - CEU courses designed for and by mental health professionals:

   - One Heart Source Pre-Field Training:

   - Libraries and Teens: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/libraries-and-teens/

   - How do we let people test and make use of profiles?

   - 3rd Year 2nd semester courses:

   - Test 1: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/test-1/

   - Lucas : http://p2pu.org/en/groups/lucas/

   - Development priorities

   - Working on layout changes for the profile and the db models to suport
   Community Review of Courses -

   - Q: Is this going live on the weekend? can people actually review
   courses (or backend implementation for now)? A: Backend for now - mockups
   work starts when John is back (email discussion)

   - Next on the Project Pipeline: Jobs Page and OBI integration

   - Agenda (3 formats)

   - *A challenge you need help with*

   - *Any proposals you need feedback on*

   - *Ideas you want collaborators for*

   - Paypal button [bekka]

   - The button needs to be configured (this can be done in the paypal

   - What amounts?

   - Bekka not an expert - looking for input

   - I think there is good stuff in here:

   - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fundraising_redesign

   - Visual ideas here
   =0&y <http://dribbble.com/search?q=donate+button&x=0&y=0><http://pad.p2pu.org/ep/search?query=0>
   =0 <http://dribbble.com/search?q=donate+button&x=0&y=0>

   - 30 well designed donation pages ->

   - The most effective online donation page ever ->

   - Alan -> People are more likely to give bigger amounts if you don't
   prescribe what they should give.

   - Give people a hook "if you can't decide how much to give, consider
   what you might pay for a course at a traditional university, and please giv

   - Chloe -> it would be interesting to look at the supporters model, with
   a page where people's names are listed

   - Is it possible to A / B test this?  Have different donation forms load
   randomly or in different places on the site?

   - we can configure two buttons and put them on the site but not sure if
   we will know the button they clicked

   - *Next Steps:* Bekka to summarise the suggestions and links, distribute
   and start working on the configuration

   - Webcraft -> Latin America/Ambassadors?

   - (maybe not relevant q) should we connect badges to these challenges
   that are translated? show it we scheduled on the badges pipeline? chloe?

   - should the badge description be in spanish +1 I can help but good to
   have more people (i think the Latin America SoW should take charge of

   - More people getting help notifications

   - How do we get more people to sign up to be able to answer help

   - Very few people know that this is a possibility, and might want to
   help, so perhaps it would take an email to the community list explaining
   how to do this and ask for volunteers

   - Alison -> to clarify, this is to get more people contributing on the
   public side not the private discussion side

   - Any p2pu user that logins into  the help desk can change their
   notification preferences on help.p2pu.org  to be notified when a new
   discussion is created. This will not include private discussions but those
   should only be available to people we  trust and list on the
   help.p2pu.org as support staff.

   - Ali -> if you start a conversation, you automatically get
   notifications about the discussions, but not sure if people can do this
   without admin rights (yes they can see bellow)

   - Ali to investigate and send a mail to the community

   - Users can edit their notifications preferences at :
   http://help.p2pu.org/profile/edit and choose to receive a notifications
   when someone adds a new discussion:

   - General discussion and questions / Anything else that just needs to be
   said out loud

   - Fireside chat / Virtual book launch - Learning, Freedom and the Web (using

   - Freakshow (?) - the absolute unprepardness, a lot of fumbling of
   setting up the technology

   - Participants not great at using webcam

   - Great content - how do we make it look better?

   - As we use these virtual tools, how do we make them engaging for viewers

   - More coaching than technology

   - Camera angle looking down is better (mundane issue, but changes energy
   on the screen)

   - Content was an awkward mix of self-congratulation and awesome stuff.

   - some of the points were good, but it bounced around a lot

   - BigBlueButton should be able to point us to the recording of this

   - Philipp -> there was a lot of preaching to the choir, some detail was
   discussed, but there were not enough people to have a generic discussion.

   - How do we get these events out to people?

   - the talking vs doing it framework: talking brings pundits, mixing it
   with online learning might meet the doing requirement more than the talking

   - Question: what was the awesome part?

   - International focus

   - repeated discussion about making being important

   - idea that making & learning and the web are tied

   - Announcing Challenge Kick off Party next week Feb 2nd. Will be sending
   an email to community today. Start working on a Challenge about a topic you
   want to teach using this http://p2pu.org/en/groups/make-a-challenge/ and
   we will present and give feedback to each other during the party.

   - Bring people in to the community call, with some tasks already
   planned, to have a party, present some challenges, introduce people to the
   idea, help people develop tasks and get ideas.

   - Any thinking on timing? - Feb 2nd, in the community call

   - Is there interest for making face to face challenge

   - If people are interested I could make a kit for people who want to
   host their own parties/jams etc

   - Chloe met with people in NYC and made some cool challenges, face to
   face works well

   - Possibility to do this in London for Open Education Week

   - Could we get a one-day pass for Skype Premium and have local hangouts
   realtime sharing in a couple different places?  (DC, London, NYC?) +1

   - I think I could get the Design Thinking and the Empathy folks to
   participate Chloe (DC and New Orleans)

   - is this for next week? we can postpone if you need to rganize better

   -  I think Open Education Week might be better for those groups, but
   happy to try for next week if it's better.

etherpad for open education week here http://pad.p2pu.org/openeducationweek
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