[p2pu-dev] Reply by email to notifications, formatting

Fri Aug 17 08:28:19 UTC 2012

Hi Stian

I made some updates to the format of comment notifications. I still need to
add the course to the subject, will try to get to that soon.

I think the current format also needs to somehow distinguish between the
reply text and the notification text at the end. Any suggestions?

Cheers
d

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
<jessy at jessykate.com>wrote:

> great suggestions stian.
>
> FWIW, i think the threading is based on the in-reply-to header (you can
> "show original" in gmail to see these headers, for those who haven't done
> that before!)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dirk,
>>
>> it's always hard to guess what other people will think about something,
>> but I think a huge amount of people have been exposed to mailing lists -
>> for example, my university has several mailing lists that all students are
>> subscribed to, including updates about funding opportunities, emergency
>> weather messages etc. And even if people aren't used to this convention, I
>> think they would catch on pretty quickly, and it wouldn't confuse them :)
>> (One important thing is that it would enable filtering so you could put all
>> of the messages from a given course into a certain label etc).
>>
>> As for headers, I'm not that familiar with the e-mail protocol and e-mail
>> readers, but one thing that would be massively helpful is if GMail was able
>> to recognize conversation threads, and sort the messages accordingly. I'm
>> not quite sure what GMail bases this on, but I know that for github issues,
>> it automatically puts different messages together into one thread which
>> makes it much easier to read, archive etc. Perhaps this is simply based on
>> the subject line?
>>
>> Stian
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Dirk Uys <dirk at p2pu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stian
>>>
>>> This sounds like a good idea! One thing I'm wondering about is the use
>>> of course name/short name in brackets in the subject line. Eg.
>>> [chin-shopkeep]. This makes lots of sense to me as a technical person using
>>> a lot of mailing lists, but does it make sense to other non tech people as
>>> well?
>>>
>>> The from address can easily be done, currently we set the from address
>>> to be "P2PU <reply+asdfjlwerlwe at reply.p2pu.org>", but substituting P2PU
>>> for the sender's name wouldn't be a problem. I created a issue on github
>>> for this (https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/issues/173)
>>>
>>> Another thing that I am wondering about is what headers we need to
>>> include? Github sets List-Id, List-Archive, List-Unsubscribe and some
>>> others. We should also set Message-ID. (
>>> https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/issues/172)
>>>
>>> Please keep the suggestions coming on how we can improve the reply by
>>> email!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> d
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>>> jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wow, YES, totally. +100 for this formatting. (though keeping all the
>>>> fun footer messages :))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Stian Håklev <shaklev at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will be very happy to buy whoever implemented this a beer the next
>>>>> time we meet! This is really awesome - I've been begging for this kind of
>>>>> functionality for ever, and it's a bit overwhelming to actually see it
>>>>> implemented, and working perfectly! :))
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if we can have a look at the formatting of the messages
>>>>> though, currently there seems to be a lot of "cruft"... here's an example
>>>>> message:
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Chinese for shopkeepers was updated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stian Haklev posted a new comment at Experimenting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comment:
>>>>> This actually works
>>>>>
>>>>> See comment at: https://p2pu.org/comments/19235/
>>>>>
>>>>> You can reply to this comment by email! Just type your reply at the
>>>>> top.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The P2PU Team
>>>>>
>>>>> Manage how often you get these delightful messages at:
>>>>> http://p2pu.org/profile/edit/settings/
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> The actual comment is just one line long, and it is buried under all
>>>>> the other "chrome" (especially if you get a lot of update messages, where
>>>>> 90% of the contents is the same). Looking at GitHub, for example, they use
>>>>> the username as sender, without faking the sending email (something like
>>>>> from: Stian Haklev <reply+34093409 at p2pu.org>).
>>>>>
>>>>> We also talked a few times about assigning, or letting the user
>>>>> assign, short codes to courses. That way the name of the course could be
>>>>> embedded in the subject line, and the actual subject of the message (or of
>>>>> the task). So instead of seeing
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> P2PU        Stian Haklev posted a new comment in Chinese for Shop
>>>>> Keepers....
>>>>> ---
>>>>> in the inbox overview, we could see
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Stian Haklev      [chin-shopkeep] What are the most important
>>>>> characters for advertising?
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> and the e-mail could be compressed to something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> from: Stian Haklev <reply-340924093 at p2pu.org>
>>>>> subj: [chin-shopkeep] What are the most important characters for
>>>>> advertising?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was reading about different characters used in monetary transactions
>>>>> yesterday, and I wondered whether 快 or 块 was actually the correct
>>>>> signifier? The literature differs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stian
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> This message was posted in the Chinese for Shopkeepers Course<http://f/> on
>>>>> P2PU. View thread <http://f/>, or respond to this message directly.
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a suggestion, but I'd love to see some tinkering with this format.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stian
>>>>>
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