[p2pu-dev] users are starting to create "challenges"

[Alison Cole]

Rather than making any more changes perhaps we can update and strengthen the
text about "other". The light gray makes it easy to dismiss/skip over.

Current: "Optionally provide a term more specific than study group, course,
or challenge, and the corresponding description. "

New (*please tweak*): "You can experiment with all of these options by
providing
a term more specific than study group, course, or challenge, such as
workshop, personal learning plan, reading group, etc."




On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org> wrote:

> I think users just get confused, because there is no "other" radio button.
>
> If there was an "Other" option that you click and then get access to the
> text fields - it might solve it.
>
> P
>
>
> On 6 October 2011 17:59, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am getting confused. -- Screen shots to check everyone is seeing the
>> same fields in the creation form:
>> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6229/6217220435_cc830ae73a_b.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>    Zuzel
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jessica Ledbetter
>> <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com> wrote:
>> > But we used to be able to select "Other" and then could write-in things
>> like
>> > "Seminar" or "Workshop" or something that was more fitting for what we
>> were
>> > doing. I don't think we have any of those right now but that was
>> something
>> > I, as a user, was thinking of making.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:40 AM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Ali,
>> >>
>> >> I thought I already clarified this before. Will try to describe the
>> >> change again. Let me know if I am missing something.
>> >>
>> >> The other option was not removed to make place for challenges. The
>> >> other option was replaced by a different implementation to not
>> >> restrict users to only be able to use the study groups functionality
>> >> when creating other learning project.
>> >>
>> >> Before users select an other radio button and filled out a new term
>> >> and short description, and we then made the othe group work like a
>> >> study group and replaced its name (i.e. Study Group) by the provided
>> >> term.
>> >>
>> >> Now they can choose study group, course or challenge and provide a new
>> >> term short description, and we then make the group work like whatever
>> >> they selected and replace the name (i.e. Study Group, Course,
>> >> Challenge) by the provided term.
>> >>
>> >> Users with a DIY U learning plan should not be affected since
>> >> selecting study group and providing a new term works exactly as the
>> >> previous functionality they were using.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>    Zuzel
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Alison Cole <alison at p2pu.org> wrote:
>> >> > We were using the "other" option for users in DIY U to create
>> personal
>> >> > learning plans. This option was over-rided to make way for
>> challenges.
>> >> > Now
>> >> > users in DIY U have no way to hack the P2PU site to create a personal
>> >> > learning plan. This is a problem for us.
>> >> >
>> >> > ALISON
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:02 AM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Right now there is nothing webcraft specific hardcoded in the
>> >> >> implementation. Hidding the creation will complicate things a bit
>> more
>> >> >> at the implementation level. It will also not allow people to test
>> the
>> >> >> new kind of group (without using the actual webmaking 101 challenges
>> >> >> as sandbox for testing). If we are moving towards it (i.e. some of
>> the
>> >> >> features could become a main part of p2pu), I think it is important
>> to
>> >> >> have challenges as an option. We even made use of this capability in
>> >> >> the first community call by sugesting one of the participants  to
>> test
>> >> >> out this kind of group for Bio 101. If challenges were not open at
>> >> >> that time I will had to manually give that user special access or we
>> >> >> will not be able to test them at all. Changing between kinds of
>> groups
>> >> >> is easy so they can change back  the group to study group or course
>> >> >> any time. I will vote to include something like (new) in the desc of
>> >> >> the kind of group and start their longer description at
>> help.p2pu.org.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thoughts?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>    Zuzel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > I've noticed that there is at least one new challenge that was
>> >> >> > created
>> >> >> > by a
>> >> >> > user:
>> >> >> > http://p2pu.org/en/groups/how-to-make-screencasts/
>> >> >> > Since we are really driving development of the challenge UX to
>> >> >> > support
>> >> >> > webcraft, it might not really work for public challenges (yet). Of
>> >> >> > course
>> >> >> > that's where we want to get to in the future.
>> >> >> > Maybe for now, we should let users know that they are working with
>> an
>> >> >> > experimental "study group type" or even hide the option to create
>> >> >> > them
>> >> >> > challegnes from non-admin users.
>> >> >> > Thoughts?
>> >> >> > P
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>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Alison
>> >> >
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