[p2pu-dev] first impressions on new.p2pu

Mon May 23 16:00:29 UTC 2011

+1 for google search in the interim.

On 23 May 2011 15:55, Jessica Ledbetter <jessica at jessicaledbetter.com>wrote:

> We could start with a google search like Zuzel mentioned and then swap
> out for our own down the road. Right now the search results from
> Google are not that great but maybe with enough fine tuning it will do
> as a stopgap.
>
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> > Cool, I'm not familiar with sphinx search. I wonder if Paul has any
> > thoughts/experience on sphinx search versus solr? Adding him to cc :)
> >
> > Jessy
> >
> > On Monday, May 23, 2011, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> >>> re user sign up-- sorry i wasn't clear. i meant signing up for a
> course, not
> >>> an account. he already had an account, but couldn't find where to sign
> up
> >>> for a specific course that was open for sign up. for these courses,
> could we
> >>> have a bigger button(s) near the top of the course homepage?
> >>
> >>
> http://p2pu.lighthouseapp.com/projects/71002/tickets/337-move-follow-participate-and-contact-organiser-buttons-above-the-fold
> >>
> >>> re search, have you thought about something like
> >>> solr? http://lucene.apache.org/solr/
> >>> solr indexes along any fields you define (typically multiple), to
> enable
> >>> fast real time search given a large variety of potential
> parameters/filters.
> >>> it trades off space (ie, the indexes can get big) for speed and
> scalability,
> >>> basically. it's used on many "high traffic
> >>> websites": http://wiki.apache.org/solr/PublicServers.
> >>> i set up solr for one of my projects at sunlight and worked a lot with
> index
> >>> definitions; if there's interest i would be happy to set it up for us.
> it's
> >>> free and open source. index space isn't an issue for us AFAIK, but the
> main
> >>> potential drawback i could imagine is that our dev server probably
> couldn't
> >>> handle the extra load. thoughts?
> >>
> >> Any experiments on implementing search are welcome, and now that we
> >> can import course content from the old site it will be easier to test
> >> performance in a dev instance. However, I recommend not including it
> >> in production until we are sure both search and indexing works for
> >> larges amounts of data (at least comparable to what we have in the old
> >> site right now), and that it does not cause lock errors.
> >>
> >> The last time we meet with Paul we talked about
> >> http://sphinxsearch.com/ with is used by
> >> https://github.com/jbalogh/zamboni/tree/master/apps/search. That is
> >> another one we could experiment with, though it also has its
> >> performance issues.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >>     Zuzel
> >>
> >>> Jessy
> >>> --
> >>> http://jessykate.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Philipp Schmidt <
> phi.schmidt at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Search is a problem we hoped batucada would solve.
> >>>>
> >>>> Zuzel: could you check with Paul what the status on that is?
> >>>>
> >>>> To reduce confusion on the courses list page, we could also consider
> >>>> listing draft courses on a separate page.
> >>>>
> >>>> P
> >>>>
> >>>> On 23 May 2011 12:17 AM, "zuzel.vp" <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Sign up/Registration of new accounts was temporarily hidden on
> >>>> > purpose. Before the migration occurs we need users not to create new
> >>>> > accounts unless they had never used the old site so they keep their
> >>>> > identities. After the creation of new accounts in the old site is
> >>>> > disabled we will migrate all user accounts to the new site. At that
> >>>> > point we will not need anymore the current restriction of not
> allowing
> >>>> > any user to register accounts with username/email from the old site
> >>>> > (unless they proved that they are the same person by login in with
> >>>> > their username and password from the old site). After the migration
> we
> >>>> > can make signup more visible again (either by having all the forms
> on
> >>>> > the same page or by adding a direct link like in drumbeat/batucada).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Most of the tickets are not assigned to a milestone now because we
> had
> >>>> > to re-schedule things in order to move the migration to an early
> date.
> >>>> > However even before this, search was assigned I think to milestone
> 0.9
> >>>> > because it is a feature hard to implement in a way that scales. All
> >>>> > solutions I have seen including search in a django project tend to
> >>>> > become considerable slow when they are setup in a real world
> scenario.
> >>>> > One solution could be to rely google for including search
> capabilities
> >>>> > (http://www.google.com/cse/).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thoughs?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Thanks,
> >>>> > Zuzel
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Alison Jean Cole
> >>>> > <alisonjean.cole at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> Agree with both of Jessy's suggestions.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> ALISON
> >>>> >> new.p2pu.org/en/alison/
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, John Britton
> >>>> >> <public at johndbritton.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I also think we should make the signup/signin box happen on the
> same
> >>>> >>> page
> >>>> >>> as opposed to redirecting to a new page, less friction overall.
> >>>> >>> --
> >>>> >>> contact info:
> >>>> >>> http://www.johndbritton.com
> >>>> >>> @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
> >>>> >>> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> 2 pieces of feedback on someone looking at the new.p2pu site.
> >>>> >>>> i had recommended they create an account in order to sign up for
> a
> >>>> >>>> specific course. so of course the first thing they looked for was
> >>>> >>>> a search
> >>>> >>>> box. there's quite a lot of courses now, so i wonder if the
> "search
> >>>> >>>> box"
> >>>> >>>> ticket on lighthouse might deserve to be moved up a bit in
> priority
> >>>> >>>> (currently "unscheduled")?
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jessy
> > --
> > http://jessykate.com
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