[p2pu-dev] metrics script - github?

[Jessy Kate Schingler]

... er, is that what you meant? :)

Jessy
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jessy Kate Schingler
<jessy at jessykate.com>wrote:

> the idea is to have a simple web frontend for people to access the info at.
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> Jessy
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> http://jessykate.com
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> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Pippa Buchanan <Pippa.Buchanan at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Awesome that there is metrics progress.
>> How will school orgs be able to access the metrics information?
>>
>>
>> On 22 June 2011 13:38, Jessy Kate Schingler <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Damnit! Will fix.
>>>
>>> --sent from my mobile
>>> On Jun 21, 2011 9:46 PM, "John Britton" <public at johndbritton.com> wrote:
>>> > @Jessy - Did you name it "Degress-of-Freedom" on purpose, or did you
>>> mean
>>> > Degrees-of-Freedom?
>>> > --
>>> > contact info:
>>> > http://www.johndbritton.com
>>> > @johndbritton - http://twitter.com/johndbritton
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Sounds good. -- Then you can from time to time download the latest
>>> >> lernanta code and run the migrations on you copy of the db so you can
>>> >> update the scripts (and update the setup of Degress-of-Freedom in
>>> >> production on release days).
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Zuzel
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>> >> > yeah-- but just to be clear, this isn't meant to be *part of*
>>> lernanta--
>>> >> > it's just a script to give us a sense of metrics regarding
>>> participation.
>>> >> > so for example, showing some tables, graphs, stats, etc.
>>> >> > i don't see that as conceptually part of lernanta, unless you think
>>> we
>>> >> > could/should integrate it into admin somehow? IMHO this is more
>>> effort
>>> >> than
>>> >> > it's worth, especially right now as we figure out what we want to
>>> >> include,
>>> >> > but that could be because i'd have to learn how to do that :). but i
>>> >> would
>>> >> > imagine (eventually!) something more like munin's output than a
>>> typical
>>> >> > django admin interface, eg:
>>> >> > http://oierud.name/bliki/munin-mysql.png
>>> >> > anyhoo, in the meantime i've set up a repo here:
>>> >> > https://github.com/p2pu/Degress-of-Freedom
>>> >> > we can always merge if that's the direction we want to go!
>>> >> > (as a side note-- is it possible to create a repo within an
>>> organization
>>> >> > without first creating one within your personal account and then
>>> forking
>>> >> it?
>>> >> > seems a little silly but i couldnt find another way to do it).
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jessy
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > http://jessykate.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:51 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> If it will have its own front end then it makes sense to have
>>> another
>>> >> >> repo. Any reason why you are not using the lernanta as frontend?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >> Zuzel
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> > they are definitely wholly dependent on the DB schema, but other
>>> than
>>> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> > not really related in terms of development. also it will end up
>>> having
>>> >> >> > it's
>>> >> >> > own front end as well-- something simple, but seems like it would
>>> be
>>> >> >> > clutter
>>> >> >> > in the lernanta repo. i dunno, i think it probably makes more
>>> sense to
>>> >> >> > create a separate repo-- but am easy if you feel strongly!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Jessy
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:14 PM, zuzel.vp <zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> If they are scripts (quite related to lernanta) maybe you could
>>> >> submit
>>> >> >> >> them to the lernanta repo (they could be in their own folder).
>>> If we
>>> >> >> >> update the db schema in parts that those scripts are using we
>>> could
>>> >> >> >> update them at the same time.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >> >> Zuzel
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jessy Kate Schingler
>>> >> >> >> <jessy at jessykate.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > awesome, i'll start a repo.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Jessy
>>> >> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> >> > http://jessykate.com
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:53 PM, zuzel.vp <
>>> zuzel.vp at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Yes, the structure of the database is public. It makes sense
>>> to
>>> >> >> >> >> store
>>> >> >> >> >> and maintain the script on github.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 19, 2011, Jessy Kate Schingler <
>>> >> jessy at jessykate.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> > thoughts about putting the metrics script on github?
>>> >> >> >> >> > (for reminder/information, the metrics script will give us
>>> a set
>>> >> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> >> > stats on participation and engagement across different
>>> strata--
>>> >> >> >> >> > basic
>>> >> >> >> >> > stuff
>>> >> >> >> >> > like users per course and school, etc. and evolving over
>>> time.
>>> >> our
>>> >> >> >> >> > etherpad
>>> >> >> >> >> > on desired metrics is here: http://pad.p2pu.org/metrics,
>>> and
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> > queries in
>>> >> >> >> >> > bold are what the initial script will focus on)
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > it is essentially a bunch of raw sql queries against the
>>> DB. it
>>> >> >> >> >> > doesn't
>>> >> >> >> >> > involve any personal information, and only retrieves counts
>>> >> >> >> >> > of aggregates.
>>> >> >> >> >> > however, i know the DB is sensitive, and there is arguably
>>> >> >> >> >> > security
>>> >> >> >> >> > through
>>> >> >> >> >> > obscurity in terms of DB structure. on the other hand, i
>>> don;t
>>> >> >> >> >> > think
>>> >> >> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> >> >> > reveals anything sensitive, and anyone familiar with django
>>> >> would
>>> >> >> >> >> > know what
>>> >> >> >> >> > our DB looks like by reading the lernanta code, and having
>>> it on
>>> >> >> >> >> > github will
>>> >> >> >> >> > allow others to contribute.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > input?
>>> >> >> >> >> > Jessy--http://jessykate.com
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
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