[p2pu-dev] functional design and roadmap (Re: UI commentary for new design)

Joe Corneli holtzermann17 at gmail.com
Sat Jan 29 19:15:32 UTC 2011


Bekka's outline at http://pad.p2pu.org/tasks-and-tools and the
function-mapping project do indeed seem related.

I think a first easy milestone would be one a page full of widgets
that aggregate all of the relevant RSS feeds from the various tools
around the site and the related external web services.  Once we see
this, we can think more about how they could be presented in a better
way, or possibly streamlined (e.g. moving UserVoice stuff into OSQA),
or expanded.

Joe

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Philipp Schmidt <phi.schmidt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joe: there are a lot of great ideas here. what are the next steps
> needed to move some of it forward?
>
> one idea would be to work with alison on improving the current
> home-page. or to work with bekka on figuring out overall roadmap/task
> management ...
>
> P
>
> On 28 January 2011 18:23, Joe Corneli <holtzermann17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi: For what it's worth, in the UK Meetup, Nadeem, Niels, and I
>> realised that the homepage can (and perhaps should) serve as a map to
>> how people can get involved with the site.  The design we're
>> discussing in this thread *looks* awesome, but maybe doesn't take full
>> account of the *functional* specification of the P2PU platform.
>>
>> I've expanded on the notes from the UK meetup here:
>>
>> http://pad.p2pu.org/roadmap
>>
>> The basic idea is that, at least to a new visitor, P2PU "is" a bunch
>> of feeds.  Can we make it easy for people to find these feeds?  Can we
>> get some understanding about what new features (new feeds) will be
>> coming along in the future?  And when they might arrive?
>>
>> Plain text of the pad mentioned above is copied below for reference purposes.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Meeting: Joe, Nadeem, Niels in Milton Keynes, UK.  Notes:
>> http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/35311045/P2PU-UK-Meetup-Jan-2011
>>
>>  -- That was my most recent point of contact with things P2PU.  We
>> came up with something that I think is a nice little gem, which I'll
>> recopy here.
>>
>> "How can I get involved today/right now?" :: "P2PU Features" --> rough
>> spec of current platform or possible design for a homepage of sorts
>>
>> We have a reasonable picture of that.  We currently have less of a
>> clue about the related question "How will things change/develop in the
>> future?".
>>
>> Right now stuff:
>>
>> This *could* be used as
>>
>>        - By asking some questions (link/feed RSS from OSQA)
>>        - By starting some courses (link/feed bla bla)
>>        - Participate in some courses ...
>>        - Write some code ...
>>        - Do some research ...
>>        - try to do something around governance? (to grow the organization)
>>           - mailing lists
>>           - community calls
>>           - irc
>>           - wiki pages about organisational practices (link/feed
>> recent changes page(s))
>>        - ... Roadmap <<< this is where we need to get some more
>> clarity, so we're working on it on this page! (Eventually I could see
>> this having its own RSS feed, e.g. as items are being crossed off or
>> added into the roadmap)
>>         :: P2PU "Future Features"-->Specify Lernata?
>>
>> Future stuff:
>>
>> With outstanding questions flagged up in color:
>>
>>            - org side:
>>              - incorporation as a US-based 501(c)3 nonprofit
>>                (how might this change things, what will it change?)
>>            - dev side:
>>              - switch from current platform to Lernata
>>                 (when is this going to happen?)
>>                 (what new features will Lernata support?)
>>            - possible partnerships side:
>>               - (what about the idea of creating a P2PU "namespace"
>> on Wikiversity?)
>>
>> If no one here is ready/able to answer these questions, maybe what we
>> need is some guidance to the people who can/will be able to answer
>> them.  Tracing that sort of thing out will help clarify both the
>> roadmap & how to work on the roadmap.
>>
>> Outstanding issues (this stuff still need to be "roadmappized"):
>>
>> Note, these are mostly focusing on development side:
>>
>>  * Pivotal tracker: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/213283
>>  * Github issues: https://github.com/p2pu/lernanta/issues (empty)
>>  * Atrium Tracker: http://tracker.p2pu.org/
>>  * ... ?
>>
>> Information from the wiki, taking a broader view:
>>
>>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/28694756/techsprint
>>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31806705/BCNWebSitePlanning
>>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31809404/BCNOffline
>>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31854890/BCNFutureOfTheWebsite
>>  http://wiki.p2pu.org/w/page/31890551/BCNFirstImpression
>>
>> Likely requirements moving forward with the roadmap-creating and
>> maintaining process:
>>
>> 1. We need some sense of the priority of the issues.
>>
>>   - Perhaps the prioritisation could come in part from looking at
>> OSQA/UserVoice.  Is P2PU getting a list of "feature requests"?
>>   - Of course, there will be development-side priorities that users
>> will not generally be aware of. It's good if users can become aware of
>> major points, but can't ask them to know about everything.
>>
>> 2.  We need some sense of the outcomes in terms of "features" (see
>> above bullet list).
>>
>>   - for example, one of my current annoyances is the P2PU wiki (which
>> I feel is not easy to use), and similarly the rich text editor that is
>> used on the site for courses isn't much good, and the plain text
>> version just supports HTML markup.  All of that could stand to be
>> improved and might be "important" as a feature request
>>
>>   - HOWEVER, it doesn't necessarily get at more major issues about
>> "direction" -- like, it's not really a "new feature".  Which could be
>> OK.
>>
>> 3.  We need good questions and we need to know who to ask them to.
>>
>>   - See comment in "Future Stuff" section.
>>
>> 4.  We need to find a suitable format to extract "legacy" planning
>> formats into...
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