[p2pu-dev] Notes from Community Call 8 December 2011
bekka at p2pu.org
Thu Dec 8 17:17:55 UTC 2011
Thanks to all who came to the meeting today (12 people must be a record!)
We had some great discussions. All the notes, as well as they chat
transcripts are on the etherpad: pad.p2pu.org/community
8 December 2011*
- drafting promotional plan for Jan
- showcase w/ Dany: http://blogs.p2pu.org/ -> check it out!
- Admin! Yay!
- Finances! More yay!
- Assessment Paper shared
- Working on Challenges 101 curriculum
- a series of challenges to get people started on making their own
- If anyone is interested in testing and recording their responses on an
etherpad, Chloe would be eternally grateful :)!
- Working on implementation of Challenges 1.0 Fixes http://bit.ly/vB8uKN
- Coming up : Challenges 1.1 Fixes http://bit.ly/vO1Ge
- Working on Hackasaurus Challenges http://bit.ly/u1NpK5
- Working on NSF Grant School of Games http://pad.p2pu.org/nsfgrant
- Inspired by Niels' idea
- Working with University of Maryland
- Games and computational thinking, if you're interested, please let
- going to NYC Saturday (ET)
- Philipp On vacation
- Working on the cards from the Challenge 1.0 board --
- Two new badges on p2pu: http://p2pu.org/en/badges/nanowrimo-prep-2011/
- These are related to courses that are finished
- Next: Release before the Hackasaurus Hackjam next week.
- In NYC - Now on east coast time
- P2PU Nordic - Meeting last week, they're starting a swedish version
- Sent Design posting to the list with changes based on last week's
- Who gets to issue badges? *Discuss ways that we can allow issuing of
badges in challenges.CHLOE.*
- We've been issuing badges in School of Webcraft in conjunction with
- These are both hard skill and team player-type bages.
- As we move on, and have challenges which involve other people (or not)
how do we issue the badges?
- Do we need organisations to do this, or notm and how would it look
- suggestion: have different classes of badges / achievements
- from trusted partners
- from individuals at p2pu
- how much demand do we have already?
- at least 3 new mozilla projects, - this demand we've seen
- "as well as other organizations" - how much here?from the top of my
head at least 3-5 (could get specific,) I anticipate those numbers getting
- individuals -
- i like the words: badge endorsed by X where X is a school or people
- Alison -> gut response: we can see a good example in P2PU history:
that whenw e have a group of people working on something the quality and
quantity generally goes up, so working with another org is good.
- Carla -> The idea of the OBI is that anyone can issue badges. P2PU is
in a unique position because we're a peer-learning organisation, so how
does the org think about vetting the badges and courses that are being
- One-off, throw-away badges would be disappointing
- How do we go about ensuring the value of the badges?
- John ->anyone can issue badges via OBI, but they're not "P2PU"
badges... they're badges from individuals or groups. I think we need to
maintain the quality of P2PU badges (we're an issuer and should protect our
- Chloe -> if anyone can issue badges, shold we build badge-creation in
the course/challenge design process?
- Carla ->maybe we could create a course/challenge about how to create
badges, which grows out of the process
- Ali -> tying badge creation into a community/peer review process (as
we do with courses) might be a good way to encourage people.
- Chloe -> perhaps there are 2 paths: one with a partner/trusted org
(mozilla, SoSI etc) and this is immediate. For individuals, there might be
a peer-review process.
- Ali -> soft skills can be given by the community, but for now at
least, hard skills are recognised via our partner orgs
- Chloe: we don't want to make a distinction that one kid of skill is
more or less valuable than another - 21st century skills tend to be a
- are we talking about issuing badges or creating new badges. I think
community members should be able to issue both types
- i thought we were talking about badge creation (how is it so different
than issuing? -sorry i m confused)(me too) -- badge issuing is ruled by
the type of badge you create (e.g. the badge needs peers to post a
submission and 3 votes from other peers that use a rubric and the badge is
issued when the average score is bigger than something)
- Zuzel -> at the moment, we have some customisable elements for issuing
badges: issuing = formula, rules for the badges, awarding
- "Creation" is different: the rules remain the same, but the
creator can define what the rules are.
- I think we've got three... + P2PU
- partners - mozilla, creative commons
- p2pu - official badges from the organization
- example: you created a course
- signed into the site 5 times in a week
- peers - (this is the one we're talking about adding, I think)
- Next Steps: Chloe to summarise, send to community and get feedback.
anyone with specific questions, please share with Chloe.
- Promotional Cycles: Themes for each month
- Jan: New Years resolutions
- One reason why activity on the site has been a bit low of late is that
we haven't done any active recruitment of organisers and participants.
- So to bring in more people, we're going to experiment with promotional
- Try to find people who have time and energy to lead courses, and then
we help them promote, in an effort to bring in more sign-ups.
- Ask: How do we not be boring about this? Answer: themes!
- Jan: "New Years resolutions - what is your learning plan, what is your
- what about following up promotional learning modules from current
events - I lead a resilience circle and we did a lot of teaching around the
financial crisis, seemed like pinning learning to a current event peaked
people's interest and sustained it long enough - this was offline, but
could it happen online? +1!
- Brylie -> would there be any graphic or design elements that would
accompany this workflow?
- Ali -> I had thought it would involve more social media, but if anyone
is keen to help design a good looking, fun template it would be useful.
- Next steps: form team to work on promotional cycles (Alison, Bekka, ?
), suss out timing and process. Tie in w/ UX changes as they are released,
update help.p2pu.org knowledge base
- Mixed Content licencing
- As a course organiser and collaborator, I have an interest in
incorporating various mterials in the platform, and have been offered
material from other P2PU organiser.
- Question: a lot of the OER material has a non-commercial licence, and
P2PU has a BY-SA licence
- the different license only matters for derivitive works, you should be
able to use cc-by-nc, new content created for p2pu is licensed under
- You can post/link to anything on the site. As John said, you have to
be careful when you remix or create a derivative work.
- EduToolkit: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/edutoolkit/ tweeted ✔
- How to Teach Webcraft and Programming to Free-Range Students:
- Community GIS: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/community-gis/
- *Past Life Regression: **
- Metodología de la Investigación:
- Understand the Purpose of Education:
- Lifenow Learner: An Active Practice of Lifelong Learning:
- Quitting Smoking: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/quitting-smoking/
- Dignity in the workplace:
- *Certificate in conspiracy theory : **
- RAILS 101: http://p2pu.org/en/groups/rails-101-2/
- #2 <http://pad.p2pu.org/ep/search?query=2> Writing HTML by Hand:
- Community: we're still working on the feedback/review mechanisms for
the community, so all feedback should be directed to the organisers, within
the course, while it's under development.
- Feature/process request: While a course is in development, comments
appear on the page, and then disappear when the course is opened.
- Zuzel -> maybe we could have these discussions in help.p2pu? Private
messages via the site could keep the discussions too closed.
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